Double Whammy

[CrazyCajun]

We can agree to disagree but playing for 3rd and 4th in the SEC with the possibility of catching lightning in a bottle and winning the SEC (and by default playing in the national championship) is a world of difference from playing for 1st or 2nd in the Sunbelt. At 9-4 in 2010, they finished at #15. Go 12-0 at ULM and they aren't in the top 25. You can't compare the two scenarios at all.

Again, I do not think he will leave us for MSU. Like CajunT said, we will have to eff up for him to leave us for them. I am simply stating that if he is offered the job, he will not say to himself "I can't win there so I'm not even considering it".

And where did 9-4 get them? Where did #15 get them? 5th place in the west division.
Tied for 7th overall and that was them catching lightning in a bottle.

[basinbear]

If MSU fires Mullen I think it's safe to say we will be looking for a new coach. I think that will be the only SEC job open and the only one Hud would get. Florida may become open but will go after a bigger name. Here is where we lose twice. If Hud is the coach of MSU next year it is my prediction that Elijah McGuire will transfer and be redshirted at MSU next year with 3 left to play. (Geaux Dogs beat Rebels)

Nope...Mullen going nowhere

[CajunRage]

And where did 9-4 get them? Where did #15 get them? 5th place in the west division.
Tied for 7th overall and that was them catching lightning in a bottle.

First off, they lost to Auburn by 3 and lost to Arkansas in 2OT. So lightening in a bottle would have gotten them at least 11-2. They lost to LSU and Bama. Yes, that is 3rd in the west. You think in HUD's mind, he isn't thinking he could get over that hump?

Either you don't understand what I'm saying or you're too hard headed to accept it. MSU is in the SEC. Will they compete for the SEC/National Championship every year? Not in it's current state. But it is not out of the realm of possibility. We weren't talking about top 25 in year 3 down here in Lafayette either.

[CrazyCajun]

Whatever dude, now you are reaching here, talking about close losses and shoulda couldas. What have they done since? What have they done in 20 years. To me if you look at what someone does for 20 years then somewhere in the middle is a 1 year spike up then you go back to sucking ___, that would be considered lightning in a bottle. MSU is a have not playing in a have league. Just bc I don't agree with you doesn't make me hard headed...maybe you are just dumb

[CajunT]

First off, they lost to Auburn by 3 and lost to Arkansas in 2OT. So lightening in a bottle would have gotten them at least 11-2. They lost to LSU and Bama. Yes, that is 3rd in the west. You think in HUD's mind, he isn't thinking he could get over that hump?

Either you don't understand what I'm saying or you're too hard headed to accept it. MSU is in the SEC. Will they compete for the SEC/National Championship every year? Not in it's current state. But it is not out of the realm of possibility. We weren't talking about top 25 in year 3 down here in Lafayette either.

I understand that Hud thinks he can win at any program, and he could win at Miss State in the realm of 8-4 seasons and the ocassional 9-3 season. But I don't equate wanting to build his resume at a bad FBS program in Lafayette with wanting to win a national championship at Miss State. UL has been known as a deadend job for head coaches and Hud will be the first to change that view of our program. But can you please tell me who has left Miss State and went on to coach at a better program in the last 25 years? Coach Hud can go back to Starksville and win 7,8 or 9 games a season and make 2.5 mil or more a year and enjoy life. Or, he can wait for a job to open that gives him the resources to compete for a national championship.

Sabin rebuilt Alabama back into a national championship program, but he didn't have to beg for the resources and the Crimson Tide program had been national champions in recent past. Miss State does not have the resources to compete with the top SEC programs and it's been many years since its seen a national championship. I see Hud as a coach that wants to compete against the Myles and Sabins of the SEC on equal footing. That is not going to happen at Miss State.

[douglas]

Cajunpop if we know each other in real life please don't bring this up ever

[CajunRage]

I understand that Hud thinks he can win at any program, and he could win at Miss State in the realm of 8-4 seasons and the ocassional 9-3 season. But I don't equate wanting to build his resume at a bad FBS program in Lafayette with wanting to win a national championship at Miss State. UL has been known as a deadend job for head coaches and Hud will be the first to change that view of our program. But can you please tell me who has left Miss State and went on to coach at a better program in the last 25 years? Coach Hud can go back to Starksville and win 7,8 or 9 games a season and make 2.5 mil or more a year and enjoy life. Or, he can wait for a job to open that gives him the resources to compete for a national championship.

Sabin rebuilt Alabama back into a national championship program, but he didn't have to beg for the resources and the Crimson Tide program had been national champions in recent past. Miss State does not have the resources to compete with the top SEC programs and it's been many years since its seen a national championship. I see Hud as a coach that wants to compete against the Myles and Sabins of the SEC on equal footing. That is not going to happen at Miss State.

I agree with you 100%. Hud is not leaving us for Miss State. Just don't want the fanbase of the program he brought back from the dead ranting that "he can't win there". With what he is done with us in these short 3 years, it is not unrealistic to think he can take any program anywhere he wants.

To answer your question, the same number of coaches that have left us for a better program. Zero. And Hud changed that. Don't underestimate the man we are trying to keep here.

[scotto_25]

With the new playoff system the Cajuns have a better probability of getting to the N.C. game than Miss St does. Cajuns keep winning, crack the top 25, keep winning the little ole SunBelt or CUSA (?) and slowly work your way into the top 10-15 in a few years. With the recruits that we're getting, the money that's starting to get pumped in here, and the competition that we play....that's the perfect remedy for a BCS buster. Miss St. will not win the SEC, nor will they work their way into a Top 10. The SEC is too talented to allow the cow bells to do any damage. They are a 3 loss team each year at best. This Cajun program, along with the current staff and influx of highly touted recruits, can and will consistently win 10+ games a year. This is the Boise, Fresno St, Louisville, way.....

Cajuns have the better opportunity IMO

[CajunT]

I agree with you 100%. Hud is not leaving us for Miss State. Just don't want the fanbase of the program he brought back from the dead ranting that "he can't win there". With what he is done with us in these short 3 years, it is not unrealistic to think he can take any program anywhere he wants.

To answer your question, the same number of coaches that have left us for a better program. Zero. And Hud changed that. Don't underestimate the man we are trying to keep here.

Never will! He has already proven me wrong on several ocassions. But I can tell you, I was on the Hudspeth bandwagon before he was hired when others were talking Orgeron or Deforest.

[scotto_25]

To elaborate a little more...............

We are setting ourselves up perfectly. I we win out and win our bowl game, in my opinion we will be ranked 23rd-25th to start 2014 season. Our schedule plays out perfectly next year with the potential to beat both Boise St and Ole Miss. Ideally, we lose one or both and go 10-2 or 11-2 (with bowl win). The formula is to start the season off as high as we can and crush our "weak" competition en-route to 10+ win seasons ultimately climbing the Top 25 ladder one rung at a time each year.

This of course is all in a "Perfect World" scenario, but is very realistic with the way we are recruiting and building...