Bustle, Lee, Rogers

[cajun4life]

_ Right. I'm sure Anthony Johnson and Southall bought those luxury cars they rolled around campus in with their text book stipends. _

Ant drove a three year old Caddilac at the time that his future wife bought him. It had nothing to do with Evans. Southall didn't drive a luxury car. If Evans would have done anything dirty we would have had much worse sanctions than what we got. The only reason we had to forfet games was because 1 the NCAA changed the way it looked at distance learning courses and 2 because our compliance officer was incompetent. The same mistakes were made while she was at ASU.

Evans didn't keep his players eligible, but he won games. Lee was on that staff as well and he didn't help keep those kids eligible then either.

[RCAJUN90]

_ You are NEVER in a position to "reload" when your entire athletic budget was at times as low as $7million. That is an insane comment and unrealistic expectation. With that type of budget, it is hard to find good coaches willing to stick around, recruit good players, update facilities and minimize your dependence on money games which usually factor into automatic losses. While 6-6 does get really old, I want this university and community to provide him with better resources before I call 6-6 a reason to be fired. To finalize that, you take where the program was when he inherited it and how many scholarships he had and I find it to be in a much better place than when he arrived. _

Load up the excuse gun. You are going to need plenty of ammo when Southern drills us.
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[zephyr]

"Oh....and I think it's time for Walker to step down and let Farmer take the wheel."


I agree!

[Crackleton]

_ Ant drove a three year old Caddilac at the time that his future wife bought him. It had nothing to do with Evans. Southall didn't drive a luxury car. If Evans would have done anything dirty we would have had much worse sanctions than what we got. The only reason we had to forfet games was because 1 the NCAA changed the way it looked at distance learning courses and 2 because our compliance officer was incompetent. The same mistakes were made while she was at ASU.

Evans didn't keep his players eligible, but he won games. Lee was on that staff as well and he didn't help keep those kids eligible then either. _

I don't doubt he won games. Those were some of the funnest teams to watch that I can remember. But at what cost? If you're going to lay all the blame on a compliance officer, then who's to blame for the way he left San Francisco?

[cajun4life]

_ I don't doubt he won games. Those were some of the funnest teams to watch that I can remember. But at what cost? If you're going to lay all the blame on a compliance officer, then who's to blame for the way he left San Francisco? _

What happened at San Francisco had nothing to do with the accusations that you placed on the way Evans ran the program here. You said he "bribed" players to come here, yet you have no proof at all. It didn't happen.

We were the premier program along with WKU in the Belt until Lee took over. You can't blame facilities because the Dome is one of the nicest in the country. Fletcher won but people hated him. Evans won but didn't get guys eligible. Lee can't win or recruit and yet people defend him because he is doing it the right way.

If you win games and do not violate NCAA rules or have players breaking the law, then I don't care how you go about winning games.

[ManAboutTown]

6-6 would NOT be disappointing because while we do have some talent in the wings replacing the previous guys, they are unproven. McGuire started ONE game and looked overwhelmed at times. He did real well in leading us back and showed great leadership and character but he is no seasoned veteran. RB is a position that none of us truly know what to expect. We are replacing a back who didn't miss blocking assignments, didn't drop passes, fumble, get stupid penalties and didn't know how to fall back when stopped. While there is talent at the position, it is extremely hard to overcome lack of experience. At WR, I believe we will be OK. However, until we know what to expect from our signal caller and RB, I am very concerned.

Otherwise, I agree with your post.

Disappointing is maybe a tough word to use, but in my opinion, i think we're capable of a 7 win season. Ppl like RC90 just don't get it man. They don't understand what 'realistic' expectations are. They don't understand that it takes money and resources to make a successful program, and to maintain it. Then they attack others for trying to make sense, and explain why these things happen to ul, by calling them 'ppl whom except mediocrity'. It will never click for these ppl.
igeaux.mobi

[Crackleton]

_ What happened at San Francisco had nothing to do with the accusations that you placed on the way Evans ran the program here. You said he "bribed" players to come here, yet you have no proof at all. It didn't happen.

We were the premier program along with WKU in the Belt until Lee took over. You can't blame facilities because the Dome is one of the nicest in the country. Fletcher won but people hated him. Evans won but didn't get guys eligible. Lee can't win or recruit and yet people defend him because he is doing it the right way.

If you win games and do not violate NCAA rules or have players breaking the law, then I don't care how you go about winning games. _

O.K. maybe bribed wasn't the best choice of words. I was a bit over-the-top with that one.

You seem to be contradicting yourself with that last sentence, though. Isn't using inelligible players a violation of NCAA rules? And please don't confuse my opinions of Evans as defense of Lee.

Here are the facts: Evans brought the program up. Evans bailed on us. The basketball program has to forfeit past games for things that occurred under Evans' watch and the program goes into the toilet under Lee. Evans gets run out of San Fran for alegedly committing numerous "secondary'' NCAA violations amounting to the "loss of control'' of the program. (Evans has sued the university for this statement.)

Pardon me for not thinking very highly of the guy.

[cajun4life]

_ O.K. maybe bribed wasn't the best choice of words. I was a bit over-the-top with that one.

You seem to be contradicting yourself with that last sentence, though. Isn't using inelligible players a violation of NCAA rules? And please don't confuse my opinions of Evans as defense of Lee.

Here are the facts: Evans brought the program up. Evans bailed on us. The basketball program has to forfeit past games for things that occurred under Evans' watch and the program goes into the toilet under Lee. Evans gets run out of San Fran for alegedly committing numerous "secondary'' NCAA violations amounting to the "loss of control'' of the program. (Evans has sued the university for this statement.)

Pardon me for not thinking very highly of the guy. _

The point that I am making is that Evans had no clue that Orien Green was not eligible. In fact those sanctions came after Green was out of school. A rule change by the NCAA and a bad compliance offer is the reason we were penalized. Not because Evans deliberately played an ineligble player, who at the time was deemed eligible by our own athletic department.

Evans also did not bolt for San Fran voluntarily, his contract was not going to be renewed so he was essentially forced out. Just like Fletcher.

[Crackleton]

_ The point that I am making is that Evans had no clue that Orien Green was not eligible. In fact those sanctions came after Green was out of school. A rule change by the NCAA and a bad compliance offer is the reason we were penalized. Not because Evans deliberately played an ineligble player, who at the time was deemed eligible by our own athletic department.

Evans also did not bolt for San Fran voluntarily, his contract was not going to be renewed so he was essentially forced out. Just like Fletcher. _

For all I know Evans is a great guy. The players really seemed to like him, and he put together some kick-butt teams. You are obviously closer to him than I. You say he was a victim of circumstance while at UL - fine. Who can keep track of minor rule changes when you're trying to win games anyway? Is that even really a coach's responsibility? I can sympathise with that.

Maybe I'm feeling a bit scorned because his teams were so great. The program was on the verge of gaining serious national recognition in my opinion, and then things went sour two years after he left. It's like when your girlfriend breaks up with you and you blame everything wrong in your life thereafter because of her. It's time I started with the man in the mirror.

[UL_Cajuns]

_ He deserves, at least a shot, to take us to the next level.
igeaux.mobi _

He has been given a shot. It is time for him to take us to the next level. And that next level is a bowl game. It has to be this year.

Didn't I say this last year and the year before and the year before? Dejavu?