Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD

[CrazyCajun]

If it was the private sector, things would be moving a lot quicker. Red tape is just as much a reason for the slow progress as anything.

The State of Louisiana is the biggest culprit and no one can deny that. Farmer is playing 5 card poker with a 3 card hand.

You are right, bc we would have cleaned house and got people to do the job at hand or went bankrupt. There are 2 sides to everything.

[CajunRage]

You are right, bc we would have cleaned house and got people to do the job at hand or went bankrupt. There are 2 sides to everything.

Ok, here's a comparison, you are hired to make Corner Pantry the next wal-mart. You have no increased revenue, you aren't allowed to hire anyone new, and anything you want to do has to be approved by wal-mart investors. Often times they say "that will take away from wal-mart customers so I won't approve you doing that". How well would you run that business?

[Bigbuf]

Y'all are cherry pickers as well just on the other side if the fence. If people were on here blaming farmer at all for on field failures...you would be telling them they are crazy. I don't think he should get any credit for in field performance...good or bad. Just as in the private sector, there are a ton of ceo's that get credit for something they don't do. The guys in the field make it happen. I'm willing to give credit to farmer on things he directly affects and won't blame him on things he doesn't. He controls the words that come out of his mouth, not Conrad's batting average.

I have seen the private sector operate EXACTLY as you have described it.

So when a CEO for example BP's goes up in front of congress and get jacked up and then gets fired its HIS fault...but its the employees that get the praise for the YEARS of no accidents?

There is no way that some one would say that Farmer is directly responsible for Jace's BA or the teams offense... that's coach Deggs BUT IF you give Robe any credit at all for it then you should do the same for Farmer. By all means WAY less the Robe...but non the less some credit. Coaches don't get hired without the AD's approval.

[CrazyCajun]

It's funny that you list all the things that we can't blame farmer for because they are out of his control. Then in the same breath we should give him credit for things...that are out of his control. He controls our on field success about as much as he controls the red tape in Baton Rouge.

[Turbine]

It's funny that you list all the things that we can't blame farmer for because they are out of his control. Then in the same breath we should give him credit for things...that are out of his control. He controls our on field success about as much as he controls the red tape in Baton Rouge.

An AD is more like an orchestra conductor.

He puts the instruments at hand in the right place.

It can be disaster or beautiful.

Right now the whole program has struck a pretty good note, (a few really) but it takes note after note before you have something to sing about/with.

[CajunRage]

It's funny that you list all the things that we can't blame farmer for because they are out of his control. Then in the same breath we should give him credit for things...that are out of his control. He controls our on field success about as much as he controls the red tape in Baton Rouge.

Farmer is ultimately responsible for the success or failure of this athletic department, but you have to have reasonable expectations. He does not have a $100Mil budget, he has no support from the state of Louisiana, he has 100 years of disappointment to make up for. Most people at the university do not know anything about what this athletic department is doing. It was pounded into their heads for years that athletics should be kept down. It is almost impossible to fire people in the public sector. He is doing what he can with what he has to work with. It is the most exciting time in UL athletics history. I'd say he's getting the job done.

[CrazyCajun]

An AD is more like an orchestra conductor.

He puts the instruments at hand in the right place.

It can be disaster or beautiful.

Right now the whole program has struck a pretty good note, (a few really) but it takes note after note before you have something to sing about/with.

Exactly what I'm trying to say, if every team falls flat next year, that won't be Scott farmers fault at all, just like it wasn't his work that made their successes. If we set unbelievable season ticket sakes it will be because farmer took advantage of the teams success and I'll give him the credit for that. If we stay the same or barely grow given unprecedented success, I would see that as a failure on his part. Not every AD position is the same, if we had unlimited resources and a ton of coaching turnover with sustained success I would give that AD a little more credit. We haven't, our coaches are here, they are producing on the field. I judge our current AD and situation by what happens next. No time to sit around circle jerkin.

[duggie85]

Whose responsible for scheduling? Home and home with Boise? Alabama at the Tigue? Numerous power houses at Lamson? Is that coaches or AD?

[CrazyCajun]

Whose responsible for scheduling? Home and home with Boise? Alabama at the Tigue in baseball? Numerous power houses at Lamson? Is that coaches or AD?

Babineaux for baseball, can't answer for the others.

[angeleast]

See what you started Turbine? Were are just 2 days into the dead off season and civil war has begun!!!!!!