A Rival

[LFTCajun]

Any suggestion that LSU is our rival in anything misses the larger point. We may play them occasionally in some sports, but in all honesty, I never consider any games between schools where one usually dominates the other as a rivalry. A rivalry isn't automatic, nor an entity that can be manufactured like the Sunbelt has attempted to create between UL and ULM. True rivalries take decades to form and evolve amongst peer programs and institutions.

While ULM competes against us pretty well at significant levels athletically TODAY, I just do not consider them our peer. Never will. That role belongs to LA Tech. They may not be as big, nor in as an attractive market, but I respect them for their ambition. THESE are the folks I want to beat athletically and academically on a regular basis. And if we happen to beat Goliath here and there in the process, I'll take it.

But, I do not see LSU as a rival in anything, other than competing for state funding..

Goliath, however, isn't a lightweight politically speaking. The state legislator is where so many of their victories have taken place.

Got to learn to beat the ______ out of them there, and play as dirty....

[CajunT]

_ Any suggestion that LSU is our rival in anything misses the larger point. We may play them occasionally in some sports, but in all honesty, I never consider any games between schools where one usually dominates the other as a rivalry. A rivalry isn't automatic, nor an entity that can be manufactured like the Sunbelt has attempted to create between UL and ULM. True rivalries take decades to form and evolve amongst peer programs and institutions.

While ULM competes against us pretty well at significant levels athletically, I just do not consider them our peer. Never will. That role belongs to LA Tech. They may not be as big, nor in as an attractive market, But I respect them for their ambition. THESE are the folks I want to beat athletically and academically on a regular basis. And if we happen to beat Goliath here and there in the process, I'll take it.

But, I do not see LSU as a rival in anything, other than competing for state funding..

Goliath, however, isn't a lightweight politically speaking. The state legislator is where so many of their victories have taken place.

Got to learn to beat the ______ out of them, and play as dirty.... _

Define rival? When two teams play each other with high intensity and your opponent wins enough games that it is not total domination. I'm sorry, but anyone denies that there is not a rivalry with LSU in softball and baseball, doesn't understand the definition. ULM is a conference rival, LSU is a state rival. We have beaten softball the last two regionals in Baton Rouge. We have beaten LSU baseball in a regional game. Those games mean't something then, RPI and rankings. It is also fair to say the UL softball program is become better then LSU's over the past two years and is the best in the state. You don't just measure facilities and budget, but results. We are rivals in both sports, despite the denial by some in purple & gold, and a few in red as well.

[LFTCajun]

_ Define rival? When two teams play each other with high intensity and your opponent wins enough games that it is not total domination. I'm sorry, but anyone denies that there is not a rivalry with LSU in softball and baseball, doesn't understand the definition. ULM is a conference rival, LSU is a state rival. We have beaten softball the last two regionals in Baton Rouge. We have beaten LSU baseball in a regional game. Those games mean't something then, RPI and rankings. It is also fair to say the UL softball program is become better then LSU's over the past two years and is the best in the state. You don't just measure facilities and budget, but results. We are rivals in both sports, despite the denial by some in purple & gold, and a few in red as well. _

Wasn't going to go there, but you said it. The opposition will now say that softball is an "irrelevant" sport and the baseball game was a fluke, but, oh well...

Leads me to a larger point that LSU pretty much had designs on softball domination, but pretty much, well, failed...

Funny.

[Civil Cajun]

_ Just a minute there son. LSU beat Texas A&M.

There were not many if any Longhorn fans rooting for their in state brother A&M that day I assure you. _

That's pretty funny, talk about a rivalry. I hear the Texas A&M, Texas rivalry is beyond healthy. I saw that game as Louisiana vs. Texas (States).

[Civil Cajun]

_ That's pretty funny, talk about a rivalry. I hear the Texas A&M, Texas rivalry is beyond healthy. I saw that game as Louisiana vs. Texas (States). _

I also think Texas A&M(Aggies) represented Texas better than the Longhorns last year.

[Boomer]

On a different thread it was brought up whether UL and LSU are rivals-----I guess since LSU dropped out of the top 25 in softball I am now confused ---Is LSU worthy of actually being called a rival with the Cajuns---Don't you just love when you can throw this crap back at these people----If LSU and the other schools would just leave us alone---Just think what we could do----This should be an inspiration for all students, faculty, administration, and the entire Cajun World to rally around our great university-----Where Young minds reach unexpected levels of excellence in all university endeavors!!!! ---Hey maybe a slogan for our place!!!!!

[cajunhawk]

_ On a different thread it was brought up whether UL and LSU are rivals-----I guess since LSU dropped out of the top 25 in softball I am now confused ---Is LSU worthy of actually being called a rival with the Cajuns---Don't you just love when you can throw this crap back at these people----If LSU and the other schools would just leave us alone---Just think what we could do----This should be an inspiration for all students, faculty, administration, and the entire Cajun World to rally around our great university-----Where Young minds reach unexpected levels of excellence in all university endeavors!!!! ---Hey maybe a slogan for our place!!!!! _

But Boomer...they are not a softball school. I know this because its all I hear when we beat them....in their own house...in the postseason. We beat them in Baseball...midweek game...you guys tried harder the we did....try that in football. LSU has a bad year in Basketball...we are just not a basketball school....football is more important...when does baseball season start, cause thats what really matters. Excuses, excuses, excuses. When your supported whole heartedly by the state of Louisiana, you make as much money annually as they do, and you have dried up all competition in the state, there are no excuses anymore. But, god save them, they throw them out there. So what happens this year when their football team misses out on another BCS Bowl and SEC Title? What will their excuse be? Let's have fun and start the guessing game.

My money is on Jordan Jefferson, Steve Kragthorpe, or losing Patrick "sub 10 on the wonderlic" Peterson. Thoughts?

[CroCajun1003]

People keep changing the definition of the word "rival".

A rival is someone you constantly compete with. It has nothing to do with wins or losses. Most of the time...it has nothing to do with sports.

Breaux Bridge and Teurlings are rivals. BB has owned the rivalry for the most part, but they are still rivals. Why? Because so many kids that go to TCH are from Breaux Bridge and are friends with people who go to BB.

Think about the Yale/Harvard and the Army/Navy rivalries. Do these have to do with wins and losses?

Sports has nothing to do with our rivalries with LSU, McNeese, and LaTech. They are the place where bragging rights are established and the most visual head to head competition is fought, but they aren't the soul reason for the rivalry.

The Yankees owned the Redsox for an entire century. It did not deter the rivalry.

Rivalries are bigger than wins and losses.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

Contempt breeds rivalries.

[wcd35]

Breaux Bridge and Teurlings are rivals. BB has owned the rivalry for the most part, but they are still rivals.

QFT (at least in football)

[LifeTimeCajun]

You have to play someone year in and year out for it to be a rival, therefore they are not a rival of ours. Softball doesn't even play them unless it's postseason. Baseball plays them only 1 time a year. And I don't think playing once every 5 years in basketball and football really is considered a rival. Now I'm not sure about golf, tennis and rugby. But I doubt it as well


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