Star check

[cjbcajun]

At the end of the day the stars do very little, except give us fans something to talk about to all the haters...

[Hammer58]

_ Well a composite ranking gives Tech #78 with a 5-7 record-----ULM #102 with a 5-7 record------UL #111 with a 3-9 record------The following post says stars don't win games------They win them all---Always have and always will---The fact that there is so much interest in them and that they are to a great percent very accurate show the value---and don't forget the recruiting boost that a high star team can get in recruiting remaining those unsigned prospects!!!! _

Boomer, you are looking at one year. A year in which cost our coach his job. Look back over the past several years and despite all this talk about their "stars" their records are not much better than ours overall and in some individual years they are worse. Who won the moanroe game this year? Who won the past several years? They can have the stars we have the wins.

[Oiler]

Stars only matter to the teams that are able to sign 3,4, and 5 star recruits. Those that can't usually say that they didn't want them anyway. It is a fact of life that when two teams face off, the team with the best athletes wins more times than it loses. How we stack up "star wise" against other Sunbelt teams is what matters most. We will more than hold our own in that comparison, I believe.

[CajunRed]

Instead of looking at stars, what I always check is which other programs are looking at the same kids as us. Example is a kid coming in shortly that is being recruited by Alabama, Arkansas, Miami, Miss State and SoMiss. He is only a 2 star player...but he is being sought out by some top programs. THAT is what impresses me!

igeaux.mobi

[Johnboy4713]

One thing you gotta remember, in order to be seriously considered by the big name athletes, you gotta prove you can develop players and win. I remember Coach Crooms first year at State, we got 25 2 star athletes, most of them ending winning us a bowl game. Dan has changed the mindset at MSU now, do in large part to the staff he put together. Give Hud a few years, your gonna be fine

[Turbine]

Stars are influenced by little things that may impress one star giver and not another.

Other schools interested is affected differently every year based on need and availability.

there is no perfect way to a rate a commitment till years later.

Still I like looking at both methods.
igeaux.mobi

[Boomer]

_ Stars are influenced by little things that may impress one star giver and not another.

Other schools interested is affected differently every year based on need and availability.

there is no perfect way to a commitment till years later.

Still I like looking at both methods.
igeaux.mobi _

I guess a huge part missing in this discussion is who decides how many stars and how the system works to determine how many stars-----another thing is whether some may have something to gain from it---say I am a "star giver" and I want to attract attention to some local kid----I have already mentioned that it was hard for me to tell the better players in high school and where they would project in college----but I have seen underrated kids come in a college program and out preform guys with higher ratings-----Besides God who gives us the stars?????

[Hammer58]

_ I guess a huge part missing in this discussion is who decides how many stars and how the system works to determine how many stars-----another thing is whether some may have something to gain from it---say I am a "star giver" and I want to attract attention to some local kid----I have already mentioned that it was hard for me to tell the better players in high school and where they would project in college----but I have seen underrated kids come in a college program and out preform guys with higher ratings-----Besides God who gives us the stars????? _

Exactly, Boomer. the system has inherent flaws that make it an inexact science (with very little science involved). Cajunsmike made a good point this morning regarding this. TCU just finished a great season and will likely wind up #2 in the nation. Yet their recruiting class was not "rated" number two in the nation four years ago.

[Cajun90]

Exactly, Boomer. the system has inherent flaws that make it an inexact science (with very little science involved). Cajunsmike made a good point this morning regarding this. TCU just finished a great season and will likely wind up #2 in the nation. Yet their recruiting class was not "rated" number two in the nation four years ago.

The ranking system is not so different from the professional baseball scouting system. High School kids are scouted by pro baseball more on potential than anything else. Only 48% of all first round draft choices ever make a major league roster.

The star ratings for football are probably better than this but still highly flawed.

[HoustonCajun]

_ I see this being a nice tool if you are one of the big programs. However, at this stage, we are often going after players who are sometimes overlooked or not that known to other players we may be recruiting. Players certainly don't want to get lost in the shuffle if they are joining an overly deep class at a particular school where they run a good chance of being buried on a depth chart but I do not think they give as much credit to a sheet that says we are signing a bunch of 2 star athletes. _

I didn't get the impression that Coach Hud was going after players who are sometimes overlooked or not that known. He said he wants to put a fence around Louisiana and has already recruited some top athletes in Miss. He will compete against anyone for a player. Star athletes have never mattered to UL because we never got any, so it was easy to dismiss any rankings. UL has been at the bottom rung of recruiting forever and our records have reflected that. As we start to recruit better and higher ranked athletes and move up the recruiting ladder, this should be noted as a recruiting tool. This is obviously not an exact science as there are schools like Boise State who win with 2 & 3 star athletes and there are always unheralded high school players who become stars and 4 & 5 star players don't always pan out. Maybe there is little difference in 1 and 2 star athletes, but there is a reason the BCS schools that lead the recruiting lists with 3, 4 & 5 star athletes and are always in the top 25. It seems to alway be dismissed by losing teams, but is a big deal to teams that are successful. It is time for UL to step things up in recruiting and be recognized for our successes.