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    Quote Originally Posted by BTG View Post
    _ This would be correct about Scelfo. Orgeron's price would be closer to 750K per year. This administration better get deeper pockets to suit their aspirations. _
    His current Salary is in the range of $650,000. I personally think that he would make a lateral move to get away from Lane Kiffen, plus he has a better chance of getting to a bowl with UL next year than with USC. Now a lateral move to Lafayette would not need a salary of 650K per year. I am not saying that 425 will do it, but think about the cost of living and everything else that makes it a whole lot less expensive to be in Lafayette than it does to be in Souther Cal.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULGrad@HOU View Post
    _ I like it J1M, funny. _
    I like reading all the other posts. It cracks me up to see how everyone argues about all these little details. Everyone has the answer... but no one does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve jones View Post
    _ Look we have to be realistic. We are a mid- size program. We have to take a srtong look at a Coach that understands our program and what we need. We dont need someone who thinks this program is a stepping stone. WE NEED A COACH THAT WILL BE WILLING TO BUILD OUR PROGRAM TO A TOP LEVEL, A CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL, A CONSISTANT WINNER. We dont want this to be a revolving door type of situation. This will only set us back. Now lets look at a list of coaches who would maybe interested or we should take a look at and why. this doesnt they are the guy.

    Clay Jennings- TCU secondary coach, TCU has been a consistant winner and may win the national championship. He has won a championships at Houston as well. He coached at UL for several years and is a coach on the rise. Has a def background and TCU has one of the top defenses for several years.

    Frank Wilson- LSU RB coach. He was part of the turn around at Southern Miss. He has worked at Tenn. and moved onto LSU now. He has strong Louisiana ties. Has been one of the top recuiters in Louisana for several years. Very well respected in the state. another coach on the rise.

    Matt Viator- Mcneese State Head Coach, is a proven winner. Has beaten UL and several other mid level programs. Has ran a top level program for several years. Has won several conferance championships. Very well known through out louisana.

    Eddie Gran- Florida State -Special teams coord, has worked U. Miami, Cinn, Ole Miss, Tenn and now Florida St. He has coached many NFL players and won many championships. Has been one of the top recruiters for a very long time. Is a proven coach.

    Brian Jenkins - Head Coach Bethune Cookman, has worked at Rutgers, ULL, NFL Europe and other winning programs. Won the conf. in his first year as a HC. One of the Top recruiters in the state of florida and louisana. Has coache many top level players. Proven winner

    To be continued _
    Why would you want a coach to stay here forever? We are mid major, not a legacy program. If a coach plans on staying here forever then that means he is not motivated enough to continue to excel.

    It also means that we could look at 7-5 for our best seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjdecuir View Post
    _ His current Salary is in the range of $650,000. I personally think that he would make a lateral move to get away from Lane Kiffen, plus he has a better chance of getting to a bowl with UL next year than with USC. Now a lateral move to Lafayette would not need a salary of 650K per year. I am not saying that 425 will do it, but think about the cost of living and everything else that makes it a whole lot less expensive to be in Lafayette than it does to be in Souther Cal. _
    He has already told the administration that it will take $750K. He will not be our next coach unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    _ He has already told the administration that it will take $750K. He will not be our next coach unfortunately. _
    Speculation....nothing but. I have heard three different numbers. Keep guessing buddy.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve jones View Post
    _ Look we have to be realistic. We are a mid- size program. We have to take a srtong look at a Coach that understands our program and what we need. We dont need someone who thinks this program is a stepping stone. WE NEED A COACH THAT WILL BE WILLING TO BUILD OUR PROGRAM TO A TOP LEVEL, A CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL, A CONSISTANT WINNER. We dont want this to be a revolving door type of situation. This will only set us back. Now lets look at a list of coaches who would maybe interested or we should take a look at and why.
    You never approach a coaching selection with a criteria that the person will stay at the program... one way or the other. You simply select a coach that is the best candidate to win at UL. You never have a guarantee that they will stay indefinitely.

    UL has to be a winning football program before we can discover whether the coach in question is a stone stepper or is an Acadiana fixture. That is a post success discovery. Not a pre-selection criteria.

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    I think the reality of the situation is that there is no formula.

    Is it an FCS coach? Well, you could count the FCS coaches that have moved up and been successful on one hand. Most of them recruit FCS talent. Does that mean you discount them? No. But there are a lot more Steve Roberts out there than there are Jim Tressels.

    Is it a coordinator from a bigger school that has never been a head coach? Many discount that because they'll tell you it hasn't worked here. They'd be wrong in my opinion. If we had the bowl setup back then that we have now, Nelson Stokley would have been bowling multiple times during his career. And, while Rickey Bustle didn't get the Cajuns to a bowl, he got the program to a position where six wins isn't good enough.

    Is it a coordinator or position coach at a bigger school that has been a head coach somewhere? Well, in that case, you have a record to look at. But it doesn't always mean success.

    Is it a position coach? That got us Jerry Baldwin.....but it got FIU Mario Cristobal, who just won the Sun Belt.

    There is no tried and true formula. You find out who is interested, you do the interviews and you make your decision.

    Is it a high school coach? No. It isn't.

    Fans (that includes me) need to worry about "we don't want soandso because he's never done that" and understand that whoever we hire, it just might work out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    I think the reality of the situation is that there is no formula.

    Is it an FCS coach? Well, you could count the FCS coaches that have moved up and been successful on one hand. Most of them recruit FCS talent. Does that mean you discount them? No. But there are a lot more Steve Roberts out there than there are Jim Tressels.

    Is it a coordinator from a bigger school that has never been a head coach? Many discount that because they'll tell you it hasn't worked here. They'd be wrong in my opinion. If we had the bowl setup back then that we have now, Nelson Stokley would have been bowling multiple times during his career. And, while Rickey Bustle didn't get the Cajuns to a bowl, he got the program to a position where six wins isn't good enough.

    Is it a coordinator or position coach at a bigger school that has been a head coach somewhere? Well, in that case, you have a record to look at. But it doesn't always mean success.

    Is it a position coach? That got us Jerry Baldwin.....but it got FIU Mario Cristobal, who just won the Sun Belt.

    There is no tried and true formula. You find out who is interested, you do the interviews and you make your decision.

    Is it a high school coach? No. It isn't.

    Fans (that includes me) need to worry about "we don't want soandso because he's never done that" and understand that whoever we hire, it just might work out.

    Great comments Jay!

    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ Speculation....nothing but. I have heard three different numbers. Keep guessing buddy. _
    I am not guessing. I have very good and credible sources. I am hoping that they are wrong, because I want Orgeron to be the next coach, but the reality of the situation is, he priced himself out of the job.

    Had he wanted $550K instead of $750K I think we might have found that money somewhere. But that is not what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    _ I am not guessing. I have very good and credible sources. I am hoping that they are wrong, because I want Orgeron to be the next coach, but the reality of the situation is, he priced himself out of the job.

    Had he wanted $550K instead of $750K I think we might have found that money somewhere. But that is not what happened. _
    We all have "good and credible" sources. All with different info. If I told you mine it would be completely different. Truth be told.....we have no earthly idea what is going on.

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