Live Game Talk Final: Louisiana 34, McNeese 10

[CharlieK]

I've mention how I did various intense workouts in my 20s where I lost a measure of coordination in arms and legs for a couple days

I've shown how tearing your muscle can remove muscle memory that needs to be regained.

My limited theory is way more sound than hiding behind "not my duty" "your wrong"

Rotating your workouts so the muscle can build back stronger does not mean the new,muscle will know everthing the torn muscle knew. The new muscle's reaction to the exact same brain signal will be different and not accurate.

We are talking about finesse moves like receiving and throwing.

We are not refering to grunt moves like a lineman pushing off with arms and legs. Not leg burst of a running back. Not stiff arm.

We are trying to figure out how a QB that could once throw soft or hard can now only throw hard whether it's a 5 yard pass or a 20 yard pass.

For QBs and receivers, the time to get stronger is in the offseason.

If they quit tearing down their arm muscles as the season approaches (and just do toning) and instead focus on throwing repetitions of all varities, the accuracy of the throws and the catches will increase.

jmo

Do you have inside information where you know the nature and timing of QBs weight routines? Do you think our weight program is significantly different than all the QBs that were accurate last week? When our QBs are accurate do you think it’s because they are skipping their prescribed weight programs?

His accuracy issues vs HS most likely stem from a breakdown in mechanics due to the increased speed of the game at this level. Hoping that improves with reps during practice as the starter and experience. I expect another rough week this week. But hopefully we start seeing improvement when we start playing peer schools again and he’s had several weeks under his belt as starter.

[Turbine]

Do you have inside information where you know the nature and timing of QBs weight routines? Do you think our weight program is significantly different than all the QBs that were accurate last week? When our QBs are accurate do you think it’s because they are skipping their prescribed weight programs?

His accuracy issues vs HS most likely stem from a breakdown in mechanics due to the increased speed of the game at this level. Hoping that improves with reps during practice as the starter and experience. I expect another rough week this week. But hopefully we start seeing improvement when we start playing peer schools again and he’s had several weeks under his belt as starter.

Its a pattern, we have almost always seen accuracy and proper velocity improvements as the season progresses (I think) it is due to getting more throwing/catching reps in-season compared to the offseason regimin.

I don't know their exact regimin in the offseason but I have seen and heard brags in the past about how much more they can bench press etc.

That tells me their focus.

Once the season starts there simply isn't as much time for the weight room. You may be right peer play could also be a factor.

I just know there will be lights out passing games before the year is out.

[SlickRick]

I've mention how I did various intense workouts in my 20s where I lost a measure of coordination in arms and legs for a couple days

I've shown how tearing your muscle can remove muscle memory that needs to be regained.

My limited theory is way more sound than hiding behind "not my duty" "your wrong"

Rotating your workouts so the muscle can build back stronger does not mean the new,muscle will know everthing the torn muscle knew. The new muscle's reaction to the exact same brain signal will be different and not accurate.

We are talking about finesse moves like receiving and throwing.

We are not refering to grunt moves like a lineman pushing off with arms and legs. Not leg burst of a running back. Not stiff arm.

We are trying to figure out how a QB that could once throw soft or hard can now only throw hard whether it's a 5 yard pass or a 20 yard pass.

For QBs and receivers, the time to get stronger is in the offseason.

If they quit tearing down their arm muscles as the season approaches (and just do toning) and instead focus on throwing repetitions of all varities, the accuracy of the throws and the catches will increase.

jmo

After my first spring practice and game, my QB coach told me to throw wet footballs to strengthen my arm over the summer. Don't think they do that anymore.

But to Turbine's point, a good throwing motion uses many different parts of the body besides the arm. Being accurate is a result of those muscle groups being in sync. If 1 part of these groups is built up to be stronger than the others, accuracy could be affected.

I never realized how much you use your lower back throwing a football until I threw a lot after several years of not throwing at all.

When the game slows down for DB, his touch will return. His throws so far this season have mostly missed on the high side. That’s just youth, nerves, excitement. He will improve, just not sure how long it will take or how much he'll improve.

[CrazyCajun]

Its a pattern, we have almost always seen accuracy and proper velocity improvements as the season progresses (I think) it is due to getting more throwing/catching reps in-season compared to the offseason regimin.

I don't know their exact regimin in the offseason but I have seen and heard brags in the past about how much more they can bench press etc.

That tells me their focus.

Once the season starts there simply isn't as much time for the weight room. You may be right peer play could also be a factor.

I just know there will be lights out passing games before the year is out.

Well in the off-season they can’t get hit everyday..in season you can get your head taken off every play. High throws can simply be putting weight on his front foot instead of the back, we always see accuracy improve as the season goes because they progress. Other than Levi Lewis what QB’s have we had that came here and stayed on the field?

[zephyr]

After my first spring practice and game, my QB coach told me to throw wet footballs to strengthen my arm over the summer. Don't think they do that anymore.

But to Turbine's point, a good throwing motion uses many different parts of the body besides the arm. Being accurate is a result of those muscle groups being in sync. If 1 part of these groups is built up to be stronger than the others, accuracy could be affected.

I never realized how much you use your lower back throwing a football until I threw a lot after several years of not throwing at all.

When the game slows down for DB, his touch will return. His throws so far this season have mostly missed on the high side. That’s just youth, nerves, excitement. He will improve, just not sure how long it will take or how much he'll improve.

While this may be true, the biggest concern that I have is that he has missed on so many elementary throws with many being under no real pressure and that is concerning. Thankfully, he can't really do anything but improve so hopefully his ceiling is higher than I think it is.

[SlickRick]

While this may be true, the biggest concern that I have is that he has missed on so many elementary throws with many being under no real pressure and that is concerning. Thankfully, he can't really do anything but improve so hopefully his ceiling is higher than I think it is.

I'm hoping the same thing!

[CajunNation]

While this may be true, the biggest concern that I have is that he has missed on so many elementary throws with many being under no real pressure and that is concerning. Thankfully, he can't really do anything but improve so hopefully his ceiling is higher than I think it is.

Walker Howard vs. Rice ---- 10/22(45%), 88 yards, 1 INT

Daniel Beale vs. McNeese -- 14/22(64%), 86 yards, 1 TD


The passing game is broken. Stats show that it definitely isn't DB's fault. The way it is designed is a problem.

[SlickRick]

I can understand coaches not being comfortable throwing across the middle if they don't have trust in the guy throwing the rock. But, it's often the middle of the field where defenses struggle to cover effectively. Look at the plays that hurt us against mcleast, the slant-in that went for 50+ yards. It was the same with Billy with LL, but I think that was primarily due to his height. He did throw long over the middle, but the ball is elevated quickly to make that type of throw. DB is 6'2" so the concern for height isn't necessarily at issue here, I just think it's smart to let him get his feet wet more, before we start exploiting the coverage of opposing defenses.

[CajunNation]

I can understand coaches not being comfortable throwing across the middle if they don't have trust in the guy throwing the rock. But, it's often the middle of the field where defenses struggle to cover effectively. Look at the plays that hurt us against mcleast, the slant-in that went for 50+ yards. It was the same with Billy with LL, but I think that was primarily due to his height. He did throw long over the middle, but the ball is elevated quickly to make that type of throw. DB is 6'2" so the concern for height isn't necessarily at issue here, I just think it's smart to let him get his feet wet more, before we start exploiting the coverage of opposing defenses.

Well, we've got nothing to lose this Saturday. Let's not pull any punches. Let's go play some football!

[RedBug58]

Hey, we lost Carter & Broussard to NIL; and Legrand & Bernard to graduation. We basically have very little to no experience on the throwing or catching end. I hate NIL. We will always be on the short end. As soon as someone gets good; big money buys them.