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Tier 1 will likely be only 40 schools, possibly 48, but almost certainly no more than that. That leaves anywhere from 19-27 schools that are currently P-4 out of Tier 1.

Tier 2 might include 60 schools; the 23 [assuming 44 in Tier 1] Tier 1 rejects plus 37 more from current G-6 conferences.

Tier 3 is everybody else in G-6 plus all of FCS.

You seem certain that we are among the 37 chosen for Tier 2. I am not so sure.

We’re kind of fishing in the same pond. The PAC is on life support but will never be a player in the big picture. The A2 will in the next few years take a few ACC and Big 12 teams. They’ve made it abundantly clear the ACC and Big 12 are in the outside looking in mode. At some point even the untouchable Fighting Irish will be consumed by one of the A2s.

That’s when Oregon State and Washington State are part of the backfill for the Big 12 or ACC. They’ve made scarified PAC 12 basically the renamed MWC.

Step back and look at the end game. Don’t pull a Tech/WAC move. It’s coming. UL just needs to be ready realistically for the next shakeup.

The A2 finally settling on their final membership will be the cornerstone for the rest of the restructuring. Until then, it’s all risk for everyone else.

[CAJUNSby90]

We’re kind of fishing in the same pond. The PAC is on life support but will never be a player in the big picture. The A2 will in the next few years take a few ACC and Big 12 teams. They’ve made it abundantly clear the ACC and Big 12 are in the outside looking in mode. At some point even the untouchable Fighting Irish will be consumed by one of the A2s.

That’s when Oregon State and Washington State are part of the backfill for the Big 12 or ACC. They’ve made scarified PAC 12 basically the renamed MWC.

Step back and look at the end game. Don’t pull a Tech/WAC move. It’s coming. UL just needs to be ready realistically for the next shakeup.

SPOT ON

[cajunfan96]

We’re kind of fishing in the same pond. The PAC is on life support but will never be a player in the big picture. The A2 will in the next few years take a few ACC and Big 12 teams. They’ve made it abundantly clear the ACC and Big 12 are in the outside looking in mode. At some point even the untouchable Fighting Irish will be consumed by one of the A2s.

That’s when Oregon State and Washington State are part of the backfill for the Big 12 or ACC. They’ve made scarified PAC 12 basically the renamed MWC.

Step back and look at the end game. Don’t pull a Tech/WAC move. It’s coming. UL just needs to be ready realistically for the next shakeup.

The A2 finally settling on their final membership will be the cornerstone for the rest of the restructuring. Until then, it’s all risk for everyone else.

I hope you are right, because we have been playing the same song since the early 90's! i think we are at a point where we must take our destiny in our hands and stop waiting for the phone to ring!

[Duckster]

All good points whether to stay/go. In the not too distant future chances are FL St., Clemson, N. Carolina, & Virginia land in either the SEC or B10. What's to say the networks won't influence a merger of remaining ACC won't with B12? Or not. Still hard to see a clear path for Memphis into either a future ACC or B12. The door into P4 seems nailed shut. If PAC 12 recruits Memphis in then enough money IS there. We'll need to grab their coattails. While I'm not a fan of cross country conferences, that's where we are for the foreseeable future. If PAC12 forms a 4 team mid-south pod division that becomes much more attractive.

[CajunNation]

This is the thing. I don't see the SBC making level 2. I think most of the SBC will be Level 3 with most of CUSA/MAC.

I don't care if we end up in the MWC/PAC or AAC. I don't see any reason to not seek membership now in either one.

[CAJUNSby90]

This is the thing. I don't see the SBC making level 2. I think most of the SBC will be Level 3 with most of CUSA/MAC.

I don't care if we end up in the MWC/PAC or AAC. I don't see any reason to not seek membership now in either one.

MWC would be sick! Nothing like playing UTEP in late November.

[NOCajun]

The current Pac-12(sic) contains 8 teams, with two of them from the bottom of the original conference (Oregon State & Washington State). The rest are former WAC and Big West teams, the best of which is Boise State. The only way I see UL moving to this conference is if Texas State, Tulane and Memphis also make that move. Of course, the only way I see that happening is if those schools declare that move first, and then UL follows along. That's how I see it.

#cULture
#WeAreLouisiana
#GeauxCajuns
#BEATrice

[CajunNation]

The current Pac-12(sic) contains 8 teams, with two of them from the bottom of the original conference (Oregon State & Washington State). The rest are former WAC and Big West teams, the best of which is Boise State. The only way I see UL moving to this conference is if Texas State, Tulane and Memphis also make that move. Of course, the only way I see that happening is if those schools declare that move first, and then UL follows along. That's how I see it.

#cULture
#WeAreLouisiana
#GeauxCajuns
#BEATrice

Won't happen like that.

If the money is what they say it is in the new PAC media deal, Memphis and Tulane will move, but they can't until 2026 at the earliest, same for UTSA and North Texas.

Just like Texas State, we are capable of moving now because we don't have the huge exit fees that the AAC schools have.

Our only chance would be to move now.

[ColaCajun]

WeÂ’re kind of fishing in the same pond. The PAC is on life support but will never be a player in the big picture. The A2 will in the next few years take a few ACC and Big 12 teams. TheyÂ’ve made it abundantly clear the ACC and Big 12 are in the outside looking in mode. At some point even the untouchable Fighting Irish will be consumed by one of the A2s.

ThatÂ’s when Oregon State and Washington State are part of the backfill for the Big 12 or ACC. TheyÂ’ve made scarified PAC 12 basically the renamed MWC.

Step back and look at the end game. DonÂ’t pull a Tech/WAC move. ItÂ’s coming. UL just needs to be ready realistically for the next shakeup.

The A2 finally settling on their final membership will be the cornerstone for the rest of the restructuring. Until then, itÂ’s all risk for everyone else.

Do I hope you're right? Yes. Do I think you're right? No.

UL should be doing WHATEVER it takes to move over to the PAC. This is 100% not like the WAC move Tech did for many reason. For one, Hawaii isn't going to the PAC and the media deal is significantly better now...to be honest, the WAC then probably had a much lower media deal than we have right now with the SBC.

I do think there will be some future restructuring in the college football and college athletics in general. Should there be a P4 breakoff (likely), the B10 and SEC aren't going to add anyone. They already have diluted their conferences to a point where it's an easier path to the CFP from the B12(ASU) and ACC(SMU). Even though ASU put up a great fight against Texas, they would not have been in the CFP if they were in the SEC or B10...money aside, why would they do that? I do think that there will be some middle level much like it currently is with the G5. It's already been stated that the PAC will not have autonomy status so right now, they are building the best G6 league they can. If the media payout is what they are saying, then travel cost will not be as bad as we think. Increase national exposure for UL especially in football and basketball. Baseball will host Oregon State every other year and we sill can schedule weekend series with southern teams. It's a no-brainier not to move over to the PAC if giving the chance. We can't keep investing into ourself to be the best SBC school. I want to be the best G6 school and because perception is a BIG deal in college athletics, a 12-0 SBC team will not be selected over a 10-2 PAC school.

We've spent a lot of money and time to build UL athletics the last 10 years or so. It's incredible how much we've improved in all areas. We owe it to our fans, student-athletes and alumni to be aggressive in conference realignment. Like the ole saying goes "poop or get off the pot", it's time to decide because we can hope that the next realignment wave comes, but it also might not for a very long and by then, it might be too late.

[ColaCajun]

The league will start in 2026 so regardless if Texas State leaves, they will be in the SBC for another year. The earliest any AAC member can join would be 2027 without paying an SMU size exit fee ($20+ mil). I'd be surprised if UTSA joins with Texas State simply due to the exit fees. If Memphis is getting 11.5 mil from the AAC and can't afford the move, then I don't see how UTSA does.

If for some reason, UTSA, Memphis, Tulane, USF and Texas State all goes over to the PAC, it's not for certain that UL will end up in the AAC. The SBC East schools are more than likely to get the nod over UL and if they do, we'll have to back fill with Jax State, Tech, WKU, MTSU, Sam Houston etc. No disrespect to those schools, but I don't want to be in the same conference as any of them.