Solar

[Turbine]

$15k powerwalls? so $60k in powerwalls? that comes out to a $420 a month electric bill for 12 years just to break even on the battery banks and they wont last 12 years. That doesnt even begin to consider the cost for a solar roof.

There are instances.

I was paying $500 a month to drive my diesel box truck home every night.

In 2020 I decided to keep the truck parked in Lafayette and get a cheap electric car ($8,900) to drive back and forth.

My electric bill went up $40.

[Cajun90]

how about when its 115 degrees outside and you running 2 ac units? how much battery bank you think you need to run that? have you ever seen a battery bank on an offshore platform? Batteries are toxic, extremely toxic. Its just not practical, not down here anyway and it for damn sure isnt green. The batteries, the panels, and the windmills..,nothing green about them. It takes more energy to produce a windwill than it could ever put out, counterproductive.

Battery technology today is not a practical solution. There are some technologies in development (i.e. iron oxide) that are promising but have yet to deliver. Wind & solar have there place today but it is very specific to certain locations & environments. It currently is not a viable alternative for developed countries such as the U.S. where we have high demand and developed infrastructure. It is mind blowing to see some of the statistics that show solar as being cheaper than all other energy sources. Lends credence to that fact...50% of all statistics are made up.

I have no issue with solar/wind/wave or any other alternative forms of energy but they have to come into their own and we aren't there yet for developed countries. They are perfect for isolated communties or under developed countries.

This issue is similar to self-driving cars. There was a recent article about an engineer who left the automotive industry and moved to agriculture because the autonomous vehicle systems he was working on are a ways off for main stream automotive but could be put to use right now for agriculture. Many of these alternative energy systems are similar. They have a niche market right now but are not ready for widespread deployment.

[Cajun90]

There are instances.

I was paying $500 a month to drive my diesel box truck home every night.

In 2020 I decided to keep the truck parked in Lafayette and get a cheap electric car ($8,900) to drive back and forth.

My electric bill went up $40.

And that is the point. It works in some cases but not in all cases. Right now there are a lot of people who have been led to believe that electric vehicles and alternative energy can replace every fossil fueled system on the planet and it isn't anywhere close to being true. Niche markets.....

The new Ford electric pickups are currently getting racked over the coals (pun intended) because they aren't coming close to performing as touted. If you want to look cute on your 10 mile commute to work and back they are great. Want to use it as a work truck like your old F150 and you are gonna be dissappointed.

[CrazyCajun]

There are instances.

I was paying $500 a month to drive my diesel box truck home every night.

In 2020 I decided to keep the truck parked in Lafayette and get a cheap electric car ($8,900) to drive back and forth.

My electric bill went up $40.

that is a terrible analogy, go buy an all electric box truck and compare your expenses. you could have bought a honda civic and did the same thing.

[Turbine]

that is a terrible analogy, go buy an all electric box truck and compare your expenses. you could have bought a honda civic and did the same thing.

No a Civic couldn't.

I drain my battery every day and recharge it every night at home, six days a week.

Last month my entire Slemco electric bill was $119

[CrazyCajun]

No a Civic couldn't.

I drain my battery every day and recharge it every night at home, six days a week.

Last month my entire Slemco electric bill was $119

And your point? Wait until you have to change the battery in it, you could buy a civic and drive it 50,000 miles and break even the equivalent financially of what you did. If electric was worth it, the government wouldn’t have to subsidize it. They wouldn't give you a tax credit, bc it would be smart fiscally and everyone would do it…but it’s not so they have (we) have to subsidize the cost. That wall you plug it into isn’t run off the sun or wind either.

[Turbine]

And your point? Wait until you have to change the battery in it, you could buy a civic and drive it 50,000 miles and break even the equivalent financially of what you did. If electric was worth it, the government wouldn’t have to subsidize it. They wouldn't give you a tax credit, bc it would be smart fiscally and everyone would do it…but it’s not so they have (we) have to subsidize the cost. That wall you plug it into isn’t run off the sun or wind either.

Slow down with the wild talk, my point is "There are instances."

[ultracajun]

Solar farms are kinda dumb, but being off grid using solar IS smart. In fact, solar is way cooler than I ever thought.

If every American could get his energy from domestic sources like solar that would be great. One day technology will safely allow us to have mini nuclear reactors in our backyards. This business of running wires all over the world to bring electricity into our houses is just plain dumb. Tanker trucks burning fuel to haul fuel to a "gas station" is so last century.

I drive electric. My electricity is domestically sourced and generated by Louisiana natural gas. Keep it local, that's my thing. When I can afford it, solar panels are going on my roof. Don't want my energy coming from somewhere that finances terrorism. That puts our sons and daughters in harm's way. Hopefully, the next election brings us a president who understands the importance of energy independence. Drill,

Well at least you embrace other forms of energy. I think.

[ultracajun]

And your point? Wait until you have to change the battery in it, you could buy a civic and drive it 50,000 miles and break even the equivalent financially of what you did. If electric was worth it, the government wouldn’t have to subsidize it. They wouldn't give you a tax credit, bc it would be smart fiscally and everyone would do it…but it’s not so they have (we) have to subsidize the cost. That wall you plug it into isn’t run off the sun or wind either.

He told you what it cost him. You're making up battery replacement.

[ZZeebart21]

When it comes to solar and wind, power storage is application-specific. You need what you need. If your wife is perimenopausal, you will need a lot.

LMAO!!! Damn I miss the Eaque Tree? Thats hilarious George.

Z