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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbuf View Post
    He is the head coach. It's his team and as long as he follows the University rules then I don't have anything to say about it.

    BTW, I am holding someone else responsible for his action, Hedgeman. He knew the team rules, he knew that possessing an ILLEGAL drug is ....well illegal. Misdemeanor or not...its still illegal and he broke the rules he agreed to follow and if the consequences for him not following the rules were listed in the team rules and Marlin enforced them, I will not fault him in any way. Regardless if he can recruit or not. If he can't recruit...fire him.

    His ability to recruit and his choice of disciplining a player for breaking the team rules are exclusive. Hell according to J1M (I think) 25% of the LSU football team and of course the honey badger are on weed. I don't believe that it is a far stretch of the imagination to think that UL is alone in this, therefore, let's compare UL, Villanova, Kentucky, and any other P5 basketball powerhouses and say they all have problems with dismissing players, weed, and general disciplinary issues and apply the issues that the teams has to the coaches. Do you think Coach Wright, Coach K, and company are bad recruiters? Didn't think so....but, of course, they are winning.
    So you don't think any incident of a player leaving is on Marlin or his assistants? Every kid has been some snot nosed disrespectful bad apple? Jay Hedgeman getting in trouble does not justify every dismissal/transfer of Marlins players...like you were so eager to come here and imply.

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    I have never been a Marlin basher, but I agree retention has been an issue. A few more during his tenure that I haven't seen mentioned Davenport, Kevin Brown, Matt Moss, Cornell Barnett, Darnell Jackson, Javan Mitchell, and I think Courtney Wallace left mid season Marlin's first year as well. I'm not saying these are all his fault as there has to be a variety of circumstances, it the fact that underclassmen have left the program at an alarming rate can't be denied.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    So you don't think any incident of a player leaving is on Marlin or his assistants? Every kid has been some snot nosed disrespectful bad apple? Jay Hedgeman getting in trouble does not justify every dismissal/transfer of Marlins players...like you were so eager to come here and imply.
    I did not imply anything, and it would be just as foolish to think that every kid is a brat, as it would be to believe that Marilin is the entire problem.

    The fact is that you, nor (I think) anyone on here that you choose to believe knows what goes on behind closed doors. If you did, I would wager a lofty sum that you would not be airing out UL's dirty laundry on this site. Nevertheless, in every instance when there is a disciplinary issue with a STUDENT ATHLETE, they have broken a team rule. The disciplinary policy is established UL and vetted by the NCAA to ensure that it meets the NCAA standard.

    "Student-athletes are representatives of the Institution and shall conduct themselves accordingly. They are often the most prominent individuals the general public associates with the institution.
    The student-athlete shall" excerpt from the UL student-athlete handbook. In fact, it is the opening sentence to the code of conduct section. An additional excerpt from the policy "The intent of this misconduct policy is not to supersede any other NCAA or University policy. It is meant to set high standards relating to the Department's expectations of how student-athletes represent the University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette."

    "Remember, it is a privilege with considerable responsibility, to represent this Institution through its athletics program."

    FYI...I do my research before I open my mouth.

    http://compliance.louisiana.edu/site...PDF%20File.pdf

    http://studentaffairs.louisiana.edu/...eal-procedures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbuf View Post
    I did not imply anything, and it would be just as foolish to think that every kid is a brat, as it would be to believe that Marilin is the entire problem.

    The fact is that you, nor (I think) anyone on here that you choose to believe knows what goes on behind closed doors. If you did, I would wager a lofty sum that you would not be airing out UL's dirty laundry on this site. Nevertheless, in every instance when there is a disciplinary issue with a STUDENT ATHLETE, they have broken a team rule. The disciplinary policy is established UL and vetted by the NCAA to ensure that it meets the NCAA standard.

    "Student-athletes are representatives of the Institution and shall conduct themselves accordingly. They are often the most prominent individuals the general public associates with the institution.
    The student-athlete shall" excerpt from the UL student-athlete handbook. In fact, it is the opening sentence to the code of conduct section. An additional excerpt from the policy "The intent of this misconduct policy is not to supersede any other NCAA or University policy. It is meant to set high standards relating to the Department's expectations of how student-athletes represent the University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette."

    "Remember, it is a privilege with considerable responsibility, to represent this Institution through its athletics program."

    FYI...I do my research before I open my mouth.

    http://compliance.louisiana.edu/site...PDF%20File.pdf

    http://studentaffairs.louisiana.edu/...eal-procedures
    I said it at least 3 times...it isn't all his fault but it is all his problem....and it is a problem. You have no idea what I know...I don't see the need to air dirty laundry at this point, he isn't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    I said it at least 3 times...it isn't all his fault but it is all his problem....and it is a problem. You have no idea what I know...I don't see the need to air dirty laundry at this point, he isn't going anywhere.
    Of course it's his problem...he is the head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    You aren't kidding about that. I always appreciate parents that think ahead, think outside of themselves, and make discipline a learning tool rather than a "punishment" that their kids really end up not understanding in the long run. Kudos to you man.

    I have no comment about the specifics of the drug stuff. We live in a complex world right now. And I know you and I disagreed about the other half of this story (Hedge mouthing off to Marlin; guess people forgot about that), but I do get and agree with setting a precedent, with a case like this.

    But I think Hedge is an anomaly at the same time. Marlin has been rigid on some other departures.
    you said yourself that you made this up. how is this the other side of the story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns View Post
    you said yourself that you made this up. how is this the other side of the story?
    Yea, I made it up..

    Moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFan3406 View Post
    Did that guy even make it on campus? My recollection was his offer was rescinded around the same time Shawn decided to return for his senior year. Or maybe he decided not to come because he'd be getting very little PT.
    From what I understand, Stalcup did not come as he did not graduate from JC with a 2.5 GPA. Graduating from JC is not enough anymore, you need to 2.5 to play in D1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    From what I understand, Stalcup did not come as he did not graduate from JC with a 2.5 GPA. Graduating from JC is not enough anymore, you need to 2.5 to play in D1.
    Well you'd know the specifics better than I, but thanks for confirming that he was never on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyCajun View Post
    Agree on the others. But, didn't granigo leave because Marlin didn't retain his Godfather, Lebato?
    Yes, Gradnigo left partially because Lebato moved on. However, Gradnigo's scholarship went to Bryant Mbamalu who became a key cog on the NCAA team of 2014. Kid worked his butt off to become a better player, was an outstanding student, and was the leader of the team. He is one of my favorite players due to the work ethic he demonstrated. He now plays professionally overseas. I argue trading Gradnigo for one year in order to get Mbamalu for four years is one of the best trades we ever made.

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