11-2... Is winning out (Bowl included) enough to get into the Top 25?

[moorecajun]

We're talking about top 25 after the bowl season ... and winning out ... keep in mind half the teams that play will lose, so our odds will increase.

I do think we will find out the answer in January!

[Cajunjeb]

Polls are too subjective. No way to determine where we end up.

Only legimate way to tell who is better is by using statistics. Take all of the team statistics (Total O, Total D, etc.) and rank each team based on that specific statistic. For instance, for "Passing Offense" Oregon State is 1st. They would be number one, then Baylor would be two, etc. Once you have a ranking setup for each team based on a specific statistic, then you take a team's average based on all of the statistics combined. The team with the lowest average number across all statistics would be your #1 team, and so on.

To take it a step further, you can use the number and weight it again W-L. And, at the end of the year, you can take every team's final ranking and figure out a strength of schedule and plug that into a formula with ranking and W-L to find out a team's true measure. Then you can create a playoff system based on statistics!

What a dream... Obviously that's won't happen. Because people love subjectivity. My team is better than your team because...

Now, off my soap box.

[CajunEXPRESS]

There are a number of polls that do it by stats only, and they pretty much are in line with the human polls. Human polls take into account an eyeball, and nose test that computers cannot.

I will take a human poll it will not be bluntly off. But to be honest once you move away from the worst and the best by any significant number the computer, nose, and eyeball are all pretty much off from week to week.

[cajunref]

11-2 would get us in top 25, possibly top 20.

No way, our SOS is weak at best.

[Just1More]

No legit top 25 team would have lost so badly to those two teams and also would not have been big underdogs going into those games. Too bad cajuns can't reply those games now.

So are you saying that we could be a legit top 25 team "if we replayed those games now"?

We didn't play well in either of those two games. And we could have. The fact we didn't has nothing to do with how much better we may be now. We were a 14 point underdog to Arkansas. That isn't the typical huge spread against an SEC opponent. We should have covered it.

When the hypothetical 11-2 question was asked... I think everyone is looking at the top 25 right now and crediting just about everyone remaining with wins in their remainder of the season. Half of the existing top 25 are facing their toughest games. We are not. I understand how opponents make a big difference, but any team in the FBS that ends up with 9 straight wins to finish the season... regardless of the opponents... is going to get into the top 25 at the end.

I hope we do it... but certainly not just to prove me correct. We won't get deep into the top 25... but I absolutely guarantee we will break the top 25 if we go 11-2 (with a 9 game win streak to finish).

[Cajunjeb]

Using only total offense, total defense, scoring offense and scoring defense, this is what I came up with (numerically ranked each statistic, calculating the average for each team and re-ranking):

Rank Avg Team
1 4.5 Baylor
2 4.75 Florida St.
3 9.75 Wisconsin
4 10.5 Ohio St.
5 11 Louisville
6 11 Oregon
7 13.75 Alabama
8 17.75 Miami (FL)
9 22 Cincinnati
10 22.5 Texas Tech
11 23.5 LSU
12 26 Arizona St.
13 27.5 Clemson
14 28.5 Utah St.
15 28.75 Oklahoma St.
16 28.75 UCF
17 29.5 Arizona
18 29.75 Georgia Tech
19 30.25 Marshall
20 31.75 Oklahoma
21 32.25 East Carolina
22 32.5 Missouri
23 33.75 BYU
24 34.75 Auburn
25 34.75 South Carolina
33 40.75 Louisiana

[CajunRebel]

Using only total offense, total defense, scoring offense and scoring defense, this is what I came up with (numerically ranked each statistic, calculating the average for each team and re-ranking):

Rank Avg Team
1 4.5 Baylor
2 4.75 Florida St.
3 9.75 Wisconsin
4 10.5 Ohio St.
5 11 Louisville
6 11 Oregon
7 13.75 Alabama
8 17.75 Miami (FL)
9 22 Cincinnati
10 22.5 Texas Tech
11 23.5 LSU
12 26 Arizona St.
13 27.5 Clemson
14 28.5 Utah St.
15 28.75 Oklahoma St.
16 28.75 UCF
17 29.5 Arizona
18 29.75 Georgia Tech
19 30.25 Marshall
20 31.75 Oklahoma
21 32.25 East Carolina
22 32.5 Missouri
23 33.75 BYU
24 34.75 Auburn
25 34.75 South Carolina
33 40.75 Louisiana

If you found a way to measure this against the strength of schedule I'd say you'd have something meaningful here.

[Just1More]

If you found a way to measure this against the strength of schedule I'd say you'd have something meaningful here.

And then it would strongly resemble the existing polls.

[CajunDreDog]

If you found a way to measure this against the strength of schedule I'd say you'd have something meaningful here.

Multiple the Avg with the opponents win pct.

[sdf1012]

No way, our SOS is weak at best.

I know our schedule is weak, but if we close the season winning 10 straight I won't be surprised to be in the top 25, or very close to it. If we win the bowl game, and I don't care who it's against, we'll be top 25. JMO, but I strongly value my opinion . We shall see...