End of Year Rivalry Game

[CajunFun]

“There is no conversation… nor is there any interest.”

Winner, winner,

Chicken dinner!

[ZoomZoom]

Want to see a whole new level of pettiness, here you go.
https://www.ulm.edu/news/2023/water_ski_111723.html

[CajunFun]

Questioning if its wise being paired up with ULM for end of year game. The Monroe game might be better attended if scheduled earlier. Pin it down to the last Saturday in September or October. Then pairing us with either USM or Ark ST., whichever one is most interested, for end of year game. My vote would be USM, but Ark St. also works. In future end of year games against USM or Ark St. are likely to have more SBC West implications at stake instead of ULM. A big game heightens fan interest & TV interest, too.

I don't have any more information about this than the rest of you, but I'm sitting back watching the politics.

We are starting to beat LSU... a little bit in sports, but in other areas, badly. The inroads we are making in academics and research are not some flash in the pan. We haven't even hit our full stride yet, we're about to get a whole lot better, a whole lot faster. And that's because we have a larger view of a university's mission, we have higher goals than playing kids' games.

Right now, Savoie is the dean of university presidents, in the state, in the 'Belt. He was the former head of Regents. He knows more about politics than anybody else in Louisiana higher ed, he knows how to get things done.

On top of that, we just elected an alum to the governor's mansion. As you all know, the LSU kiddies are blowing hemorrhoids because his transition team is meeting at UL instead of LSU.

We are in the catbird's seat.

I've heard that the 'Belt encourages UL-ULM as a rivalry. If so, we don't fight it, because ULM knows we're their meal ticket. They are the weak sister in the conference, and would likely be dis-invited without Savoie's support.

So we have them where we need them, they can't afford to fight us politically. The political considerations are much more important than ball games.

And there are surprisingly few universities who understand that.

[JMV JustMyView]

I don't have any more information about this than the rest of you, but I'm sitting back watching the politics.

We are starting to beat LSU... a little bit in sports, but in other areas, badly. The inroads we are making in academics and research are not some flash in the pan. We haven't even hit our full stride yet, we're about to get a whole lot better, a whole lot faster. And that's because we have a larger view of a university's mission, we have higher goals than playing kids' games.

Right now, Savoie is the dean of university presidents, in the state, in the 'Belt. He was the former head of Regents. He knows more about politics than anybody else in Louisiana higher ed, he knows how to get things done.

On top of that, we just elected an alum to the governor's mansion. As you all know, the LSU kiddies are blowing hemorrhoids because his transition team is meeting at UL instead of LSU.

We are in the catbird's seat.

I've heard that the 'Belt encourages UL-ULM as a rivalry. If so, we don't fight it, because ULM knows we're their meal ticket. They are the weak sister in the conference, and would likely be dis-invited without Savoie's support.

So we have them where we need them, they can't afford to fight us politically. The political considerations are much more important than ball games.

And there are surprisingly few universities who understand that.

Where is UL beating TSAB a little bit in sports? The Cajuns can only beat them in SB and BB, nothing else. I hate TSAB but this is facts.

[Turbine]

... The Cajuns... beat them in SB and BB, nothing else.

"We are starting to beat LSU... a little bit in sports, but in other areas, badly"

That fits his description

[CajunFun]

Where is UL beating TSAB a little bit in sports? The Cajuns can only beat them in SB and BB, nothing else. I hate TSAB but this is facts.

We were ranked in the top 25 in football for a couple of years, and they weren't. That has never happened to them with another state university before.

But it wouldn't matter if it were just baseball and softball. It wasn't long ago that no public university in the state stood up to them for long. LSU simply out-spent them and shut them down.

We have stood up to them, and when they tried to shut us down, we did not go away, we rebounded. We've done it in sports, but we've done it a lot more in academics.

Trust me, among anyone who pays attention at LSU, there is a growing unease. Because at night, when they go to bed and the lights are off, they know they are imposters.

I have said it previously, and I will shout it from the rooftops: they have three times our faculty, four times our budget, and five times our doctoral programs, and we just passed them in research funding at $205M.

That is mind-blowing. Or it would be, except that we have an excellent chance of passing $300M this year... which is not only much more than they generate, it is more than they currently falsely report. They won't even be able to pretend we haven't passed them.

Are they hearing footsteps? Trust me, they're having nightmares about footsteps.

But they're hearing them coming from in front of them, and coming directly at them.

[JMV JustMyView]

We were ranked in the top 25 in football for a couple of years, and they weren't. That has never happened to them with another state university before.

But it wouldn't matter if it were just baseball and softball. It wasn't long ago that no public university in the state stood up to them for long. LSU simply out-spent them and shut them down.

We have stood up to them, and when they tried to shut us down, we did not go away, we rebounded. We've done it in sports, but we've done it a lot more in academics.

Trust me, among anyone who pays attention at LSU, there is a growing unease. Because at night, when they go to bed and the lights are off, they know they are imposters.

I have said it previously, and I will shout it from the rooftops: they have three times our faculty, four times our budget, and five times our doctoral programs, and we just passed them in research funding at $205M.

That is mind-blowing. Or it would be, except that we have an excellent chance of passing $300M this year... which is not only much more than they generate, it is more than they currently falsely report. They won't even be able to pretend we haven't passed them.

Are they hearing footsteps? Trust me, they're having nightmares about footsteps.

But they're hearing them coming from in front of them, and coming directly at them.

We "were" ranked in the top 25 in football. Were is the magic word. The Cajuns can't stay consistent and that is what TSAB has over us. Two years after the fact the Cajuns are 6-6 playing the 125th weakest schedule and finishing 5th in the west division of the SBC conference. The 6 wins are against teams with a 22-44 record. Let that sink in. Even you would now have to admit the program has fallen big time. You still think Mike was the right hire? Seems like we are having nightmares and not hearing anyone else's foot steps.

[R1Letterman]

Where is UL beating TSAB a little bit in sports? The Cajuns can only beat them in SB and BB, nothing else. I hate TSAB but this is facts.

Last five years football records:
Tsab: 45-19
Cajuns: 46-18
(And yes even with an alleged NC, counting as 15-0 in that time span, cajuns still ahead)

And how many more water ski National titles do we have over them, oh right all of them.

[R1Letterman]

How was tsab consistent?
15-0 then two losing seasons

And look at the 2011 title, then vacated all wins for the next four years, hard to believe they started cheating right after winning it all?

[R1Letterman]

Cajun fun, when I read the new R1 parameters, not sure if I am reading too much into it, but it seemed they changed the way they count the funded from raised/generated to spent...

Does that mean the TSABs of the world can just spend their own money on unapproved research just to get total dollars spent (i.e. wasted) higher?