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Thread: BYU Charted its Path to the Big 12 through Independence

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Yeah, play in the Southland where you're almost guaranteed a play in game in the NCAA tournament. And, as MelRock said, spring sports are a non starter when you talk about the Southland.

    There are exactly two people who think being independent would work. And, both of them have contributed to this thread.
    I DON'T think it would work here. As I said in my post, your leadership must be committed to this. Ours never would be.

    Hasn't it been questionable lately on at large bids for UL baseball? I don't see much difference here. Basketball? Go from a 1-bid league to another. Softball? We have always been a conference of one on that. No difference. Weren't we about to play McNeese in a Super?

    I think the biggest hit here would be to our pride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    I DON'T think it would work here. As I said in my post, your leadership must be committed to this. Ours never would be.

    Hasn't it been questionable lately on at large bids for UL baseball? I don't see much difference here. Basketball? Go from a 1-bid league to another. Softball? We have always been a conference of one on that. No difference. Weren't we about to play McNeese in a Super?

    I think the biggest hit here would be to our pride.
    Dude, get a grip.

    The Sun Belt has been a FOUR BID LEAGUE the last two years. And, will continue to be. I can remember the SLC getting two bids maybe twice in the last 20 years or so.

    There's a big difference between being a 13 seed in the NCAA tournament and being a 16.

    Please stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Dude, get a grip.

    The Sun Belt has been a FOUR BID LEAGUE the last two years. And, will continue to be. I can remember the SLC getting two bids maybe twice in the last 20 years or so.

    There's a big difference between being a 13 seed in the NCAA tournament and being a 16.

    Please stop.
    Well, remove us from the SBC 4 and add us to the SLC 2. Changes things. I'm guessing we would get just as many bids as we would win that tourney more often than not. I'll give you the fact that the SLC is garbage. I merely wanted to use the worst case scenario.

    Odds are we would work some deal with CUSA. My dream scenario would be to get a Missouri Valley invite for our other sports. Travel would be more costly, but it would bolster our efforts to raise our profile to coincide with the Indy status. Like I said, commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Yeah, play in the Southland where you're almost guaranteed a play in game in the NCAA tournament. And, as MelRock said, spring sports are a non starter when you talk about the Southland.

    There are exactly two people who think being independent would work. And, both of them have contributed to this thread.
    But byu was not independent in all sports. How do they figure out which conferences allow non football schools to play and which don't. Sunbelt had a non football school before?
    Also pac 12 allowed usc to be in without softball

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayWalker View Post
    Yeah, play in the Southland where you're almost guaranteed a play in game in the NCAA tournament. And, as MelRock said, spring sports are a non starter when you talk about the Southland.

    There are exactly two people who think being independent would work. And, both of them have contributed to this thread.
    You are correct about the playI. Game but should it be that way? How about rotating the play in games, so it is known at beginning of year that this year is x,y and z's turn for play in game

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    There was a time not so long ago when had Louisiana bolted in football there was ZERO chance the SBC would have asked UL to leave in other sports.


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    Often (not always) whenever someone compares conferences with the slant of demeaning the other conference, they often fail to subtract Louisiana's contribution to the SBC and transfer the contribution to the other conference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    I've said this before, and I will say it again. Possibly years ago, this would have been a logical idea (possibly). But in today's world of college sports, it would not work, football could possibly happen, because you only schedule 12 games, but other sports would be almost impossible to schedule, which means you would have to join a conference for all sports outside of football, and while we don't love the SBC, the reality is that no conference that we would join would have nearly the same competition in those sports that the SBC does. Baseball and Softball, first and foremost. But the same could be said for basketball, we might hate being a 13 or 14 seed in the seasons that we make it to the tournament, but the SLC champion last year was a 16 seed, the year before they were also a 16 seed, the year before they were 14 seed, the year before covid a 15, the year before that a 14. But that was before the conference lost all of the Texas teams.

    We would be in a much worse situation as an independent than we are right now, with very little chance of moving up.

    The landscape of college athletics has changed, we are in a really good place right now, not perfect, but really good.
    With these giant conferences they are scheduling 9 games in conference another Pp5 game. That leaves them 2 games to get to 6 and 7 They prefer 8. This isn’t 1975 with dozens of independents. BYU goal was P5 or bust. They had major dollars backing them. So you’re spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    With these giant conferences they are scheduling 9 games in conference another Pp5 game. That leaves them 2 games to get to 6 and 7 They prefer 8. This isn’t 1975 with dozens of independents. BYU goal was P5 or bust. They had major dollars backing them. So you’re spot on.
    And an entire religion behind them

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    And an entire religion behind them
    And a world wide tv network. Was weird to be in Hawaii years back and BYU tv was on the cable.

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