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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    If you’re looking for success and model in small markets it’s the Thunder, and San Antonio. Golden state is a team based in Oakland, but is the Bay Area team hardly a small market.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Warriors
    No, it would be the Warriors first IMO. While they may be a big market team now due to their success and popularity, they were not a big market team 10-12 years ago. They may have had a bigger media market than NOLA but their product was worse and there was little interest in the franchise. Brooklyn is a big market team but its just as hard for them to attract top quality players due to the same reasons. The the article below explaining markets. It's fluid when dealing with teams outside of NY and LA. They were amongst the worst teams in revenue, attendance and Television deals.

    https://www.quora.com/Which-NBA-team...g-Market-teams

    The warriors built it off of the draft and a new style of play.... Period. Their style has transformed the NBA as we know it. The Warriors have made it an art of fitting pieces together with blend of veterans and draft picks that come in and serve a certain role unselfishly. I would not argue that the Spurs have done the same thing, especially when they don't spend the type of money that the Warriors have but the Spurs core players for years were older players that they filled pieces around. I'd just prefer to build through young exciting players with a brand of ball that brings people to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Tatum and three number 1’s would be enough for me. 2 unprotected #1 picks this year and 1 for next year. First we have to dump Demps.
    Throw in Rozier in that mix and I'm sold.

  3. UL Basketball Re: AD wants out in NOLA

    You're never getting anywhere close to what he's worth unless Davis blesses the trade. I'm not sure how many teams he's winning to play for but I'd think most have little chance of getting a lottery number. So then you'd have to do some creative trades. Dump Demps now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    No, it would be the Warriors first IMO. While they may be a big market team now due to their success and popularity, they were not a big market team 10-12 years ago. They may have had a bigger media market than NOLA but their product was worse and there was little interest in the franchise. Brooklyn is a big market team but its just as hard for them to attract top quality players due to the same reasons. The the article below explaining markets. It's fluid when dealing with teams outside of NY and LA. They were amongst the worst teams in revenue, attendance and Television deals.

    https://www.quora.com/Which-NBA-team...g-Market-teams

    The warriors built it off of the draft and a new style of play.... Period. Their style has transformed the NBA as we know it. The Warriors have made it an art of fitting pieces together with blend of veterans and draft picks that come in and serve a certain role unselfishly. I would not argue that the Spurs have done the same thing, especially when they don't spend the type of money that the Warriors have but the Spurs core players for years were older players that they filled pieces around. I'd just prefer to build through young exciting players with a brand of ball that brings people to watch.
    Now you’re really reaching. Bay Area is a huge market. Yes they sucked forever. Thunder and Spurs truly small market. Yes small market teams build by draft. They rarely can hit the players often enough to build championship teams. Even big market need to hit it right. Mostly you’ve got strike while the iron is hot, and supplement with buying big time players. Warriors bought two to stay good.

  5. UL Basketball Re: AD wants out in NOLA

    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I think you are wrong about the attendance. I attend games fairly frequently and the stadium is much more filled than you think. The pelicans are 12th leaguewide in attendance this year and average 93% occupancy in those games.
    Not close to top half. Been in the mid twenties for years.

    http://proxy.espn.com/nba/attendance?year=2017

    Just pick a year and get rank.

  6. UL Basketball Re: AD wants out in NOLA

    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    So we have no factual knowledge of the profit they are making or not. But you know that the previous owner was losing double digit millions?

    This report from espn says the Pels lost money before revenue sharing, but are in the black after receiving their share.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...eason-now-what
    The NBA took them over because they didn't want them in receivership. Around all that fancy accounting they had become illiquid.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...y_george_s.amp

    http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=5892227

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    You're never getting anywhere close to what he's worth unless Davis blesses the trade. I'm not sure how many teams he's winning to play for but I'd think most have little chance of getting a lottery number. So then you'd have to do some creative trades. Dump Demps now.
    He has another year on the contract so if I were N.O. I don't care what he blesses. I trade away all the high priced players on this years team I can with the possible exception of Jrue Holiday for players I can dump at the end of the year with little to no CAP impact when I cut them. I wait for the lottery to determine where my position comes up (if really lucky I might even pick first), and then I open the bargaining table. I'm looking for as many #1 unprotected draft picks over the next couple of years as I can get with a very solid starter.

    Obviously, this means you're replacing everyone in the basketball side of the business (GM, Coaches, training staff, including Lomis) as I don't trust any of the current folks (due to 7 years of failing in putting together a competitive team) and putting an organization together that understands modern basketball, is capable of evaluating talent, and an administration who understands when and how much to pay for any young talent you want to grow with and any veterans you may want to add.

    Is it easy, no, but considering where we're starting I think blowing it up is the best option. What I don't know is if Rita Benson is strong willed enough to do so. Tom Benson did it when he hired Jim Finks years back after understanding that what follies Mecom perpetrated on the Saints organization and fans for years had to change, so I'm hoping Rita remembers that and makes the change.

    Rant done.

  8. UL Basketball Re: AD wants out in NOLA

    If he don't bless it then he's worth nothing. I'm thinking I'm the team you're asking a Kings ransom for, but the kings dead if I get him and he doesn't resign. Pels gave away a number pick one player for Boogie Cousins. Boogie is at Golden State now. At least we knew he might sign. If Davis nixes any deal he's a rental. You're not getting top dollar for a rental. I'm intrigued by the rest of your plan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    If he don't bless it then he's worth nothing. I'm thinking I'm the team you're asking a Kings ransom for, but the kings dead if I get him and he doesn't resign. Pels gave away a number pick one player for Boogie Cousins. Boogie is at Golden State now. At least we knew he might sign. If Davis nixes any deal he's a rental. You're not getting top dollar for a rental. I'm intrigued by the rest of your plan.
    A rental from another team may still beat what the Lakers have to offer as they have lots of average players on their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    A rental from another team may still beat what the Lakers have to offer as they have lots of average players on their team.
    I would t trade to the Lakers for anything. F them. Lebron is tampering but the league won’t do anything about it because he’s Lebron.

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