Status Quo or Changes

[anhil8tor]

I asked a question yesterday about who has this guy really brought in that has been a game changer ?

I posted his first recruiting class some time back and it was atrocious.

[axg8750]

When I made that comment, we were hot on the trail of another, more well known Jake. We were also in talks with a sitting head coach and a former SEC head coach. In the weeks following, madness ensued, and 2/3 coaches were offered really good gigs with powerhouse programs. The third, I was told, wasn’t exactly what Robe was looking for, in the end.

Thanks for the detailed answer.

I still feel the need to point out that for the second straight coaching search you made post after posts claiming to have insider information trying to make others feel uninformed and your information ended up being wrong.

Time to pump the brakes about how you are right a high percentage of the time?

[covcaj]

Thanks for the detailed answer.

I still feel the need to point out that for the second straight coaching search you made post after posts claiming to have insider information trying to make others feel uninformed and that information ended up being wrong.

Time to pump the brakes about how you are right a high percentage of the time?

Huh? I don't know Mr. Town, or anybody on this board for that matter, but this criticism is over board. If you want to criticize Mr. Town for some of his childish, "Mine is bigger than yours" rants, that's a different story. But, to criticize him because he provided us with information that was correct at the time is wrong. Hiring, especially hiring in the field of college athletics, is fluid. The situation constantly changes. The deal is not done until the press conference is held, and, even then, it is sometimes not a done deal. I can remember a couple of times when an official announcement of a hire was made, only to have that person change his/her mind.

In the case of the head football coach, I have no reason to doubt that Maggard thought he had his man in Prye, only to have Penn State make a counter offer that he couldn't refuse. Mr. Town gave, I thought, a very believable explanation as to what happened in the latest instance.

Also, in this latest instance, several other members, whom , I believe, or trustworthy, were giving us the same information. In short, while I find some of Mr. Town's comments cringe worthy I have no reason to doubt the veracity of his posts when he giving us information.

[cajun_lannister]

If I may add, everything in his history points to this:

The kids are going to LOVE playing for him. That, in itself, will be a big step forward. When it comes to assistants, the term "player's coach" is a very big compliment.

I don't think we're going to go from a .242 average (or whatever it was) to .285 overnight. But I believe the Cajuns got better with this hire.

Could not get worse so there is only up !

[Turbine]

Is it me or is nobody going to comment on the fact that Talbot is still here ? It’s like this is not a total “happy ending” guys. The cancer and the arrogance is still part of the program. This is solely a “save face” move keeping this guy around. And who said he was “ recruiter extraordinaire” ? I asked a question yesterday about who has this guy really brought in that has been a game changer ? One guy responded. I mean, is that even relevant ? So again, we have two different positions where normally it’s just one. I’m sorry but in my eyes, Jake Wells May turn out to be a great hire but JT should have been gone June 1st. It’s a joke giving JT the keys to finding your talent when Wells seems to be more than capable. This is a slap in Well’s face in fact. Rant over.

JT's as Wells' focus should be laser beam accurate.

Sit back and let the gears turn.

jmo

[Dad04]

Is it me or is nobody going to comment on the fact that Talbot is still here ? It's like this is not a total "happy ending" guys. The cancer and the arrogance is still part of the program. This is solely a "save face" move keeping this guy around. And who said he was " recruiter extraordinaire" ? I asked a question yesterday about who has this guy really brought in that has been a game changer ? One guy responded. I mean, is that even relevant ? So again, we have two different positions where normally it's just one. I'm sorry but in my eyes, Jake Wells May turn out to be a great hire but JT should have been gone June 1st. It's a joke giving JT the keys to finding your talent when Wells seems to be more than capable. This is a slap in Well's face in fact. Rant over.

Seems like extra friction in the recruiting system. Hopefully, Wells can drive the bus and JT can lick stamps, fetch water at Perfect Game tournaments and simply stay away from any baseball players and donors.

[cajun_lannister]

I wonder if this situation of keeping JT around is what prevented Robe from landing his first two options?

In Japan, no one is ever fired they just stick you in a cubicle and give you mind-numbing work until you quit Robe takes that approach.

So I don't think JT was the reason the other 2 did not come here.

[Rougarou]

Is it me or is nobody going to comment on the fact that Talbot is still here ? It’s like this is not a total “happy ending” guys. The cancer and the arrogance is still part of the program. This is solely a “save face” move keeping this guy around. And who said he was “ recruiter extraordinaire” ? I asked a question yesterday about who has this guy really brought in that has been a game changer ? One guy responded. I mean, is that even relevant ? So again, we have two different positions where normally it’s just one. I’m sorry but in my eyes, Jake Wells May turn out to be a great hire but JT should have been gone June 1st. It’s a joke giving JT the keys to finding your talent when Wells seems to be more than capable. This is a slap in Well’s face in fact. Rant over.

I believe extensive discussion was held in this very thread on that very subject weeks ago.

[axg8750]

Huh? I don't know Mr. Town, or anybody on this board for that matter, but this criticism is over board. If you want to criticize Mr. Town for some of his childish, "Mine is bigger than yours" rants, that's a different story. But, to criticize him because he provided us with information that was correct at the time is wrong. Hiring, especially hiring in the field of college athletics, is fluid. The situation constantly changes. The deal is not done until the press conference is held, and, even then, it is sometimes not a done deal. I can remember a couple of times when an official announcement of a hire was made, only to have that person change his/her mind.

In the case of the head football coach, I have no reason to doubt that Maggard thought he had his man in Prye, only to have Penn State make a counter offer that he couldn't refuse. Mr. Town gave, I thought, a very believable explanation as to what happened in the latest instance.

Also, in this latest instance, several other members, whom , I believe, or trustworthy, were giving us the same information. In short, while I find ome of Mr. Town's comments cringe worthy I have no reson to doubt the veracity of his posts when he giving us information.

It’s all in the way “Mr. Town’s” (reach-around much?) act like he always knows everything while no one else on here knows anything then he ends up being wrong. It’s hilarious.

If someone has inside information that is always wrong do they really know more than someone who doesn’t claim to have any inside information?

The way Mr. Rock Solid runs to Ragin Pagin to brag about the inside information he has and assures everyone else they have no idea and that he isn’t going to share it is childish. When this information proves to be incorrect over and over it makes him look rediculous.

[ManAboutTown]

Is it me or is nobody going to comment on the fact that Talbot is still here ? It’s like this is not a total “happy ending” guys. The cancer and the arrogance is still part of the program. This is solely a “save face” move keeping this guy around. And who said he was “ recruiter extraordinaire” ? I asked a question yesterday about who has this guy really brought in that has been a game changer ? One guy responded. I mean, is that even relevant ? So again, we have two different positions where normally it’s just one. I’m sorry but in my eyes, Jake Wells May turn out to be a great hire but JT should have been gone June 1st. It’s a joke giving JT the keys to finding your talent when Wells seems to be more than capable. This is a slap in Well’s face in fact. Rant over.

I understand the frustration, and from the outside looking in, you would seem to be right. But again, Talbot being on staff has gotten us into rooms that we’ve never been in before. Nose to nose with programs like UNC, Miami, TCU, UT and Texas A&M, battling it out for players... and winning our share of commitments. The pipeline is a clique.. Especially in the south.. You either have a guy in the “clique”, or you don’t.

We have a development problem, not a recruiting problem. I’m happy JT will be on staff, and I’m happy he won’t be coaching on the field.