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Thread: Football Season: Reasons to be negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    PS This isn't the first, nor the last, time true fans of a program that "want to win" are struggling with the head coach. There can be no going to our games to watch the Cajuns hopefully win... and not go to watch Mark Hudspeth succeed or fail. They are not mutually exclusive.

    Having an issue with the head coach should not be conflated with "lack of love of program". It always comes up when there's an issue with a head coach... but I will fiercely slay the purveyors of that yarn. Fans that withdraw support of bad coaches are often crushed over that decision. But it is their actions that forces improvement in coaches. It is not the persistently obedient fans that generate pressure for improvement. But I still love all fans equally.
    I dont care how anyone personally feels about the coach one way or the other, just like it shouldn't matter to anyone how I feel about the coach. Having optimism going into a season doesn't make me a hud lover, I'm just not miserable. His hate for hud is more than his love for the Cajuns...he would would rather see hud fail than see the Cajuns win. He would rather be right than see us win. It clearly bothers him that there might still be people out there supporting the man, if it didn't he wouldn't make it such a big deal all the time. He uses his former position to try to influence everyone to feel the same way he does about hud. Anytime you disagree with him you are instantly put into the "hud lover" category

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    We'd all rather Hud succeed out the job than fail out the job. IMO Hud is a coach who'll keep doing just enough to not get fired, only maybe not get renewed.

    If I wouldn't keep you for a million I wouldn't keep you period. We've got two more seasons with Hud regardless of anything short of a disaster.

    I don't know what T thinks about Hud, but he absolutely would like us to never lose regardless of coaches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    I dont care how anyone personally feels about the coach one way or the other, just like it shouldn't matter to anyone how I feel about the coach. Having optimism going into a season doesn't make me a hud lover, I'm just not miserable. His hate for hud is more than his love for the Cajuns...he would would rather see hud fail than see the Cajuns win. He would rather be right than see us win. It clearly bothers him that there might still be people out there supporting the man, if it didn't he wouldn't make it such a big deal all the time. He uses his former position to try to influence everyone to feel the same way he does about hud. Anytime you disagree with him you are instantly put into the "hud lover" category
    Again, you are stating something as fact without any proof. Nowhere did I every say that I hope Hud loses to get rid of him. I've never been a fan that hopes his program or team tanks to get rid of a coach. I would much rather see him find a way to get it done here and win a SBC championship for the program. I don't have to like a coach to hope my program wins. There is a difference in not believing he can turn the last two seasons around and hoping he loses. This is the second time in this thread you have presented your opinion of what I actually believe as FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    We'd all rather Hud succeed out the job than fail out the job. IMO Hud is a coach who'll keep doing just enough to not get fired, only maybe not get renewed.

    If I wouldn't keep you for a million I wouldn't keep you period. We've got two more seasons with Hud regardless of anything short of a disaster.

    I don't know what T thinks about Hud, but he absolutely would like us to never lose regardless of coaches.
    He sure doesn't act like it...or post like it I should say...still waiting on that mass team exodus from the big scandal announcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Again, you are stating something as fact without any proof. Nowhere did I every say that I hope Hud loses to get rid of him. I've never been a fan that hopes his program or team tanks to get rid of a coach. I would much rather see him find a way to get it done here and win a SBC championship for the program. I don't have to like a coach to hope my program wins. There is a difference in not believing he can turn the last two seasons around and hoping he loses. This is the second time in this thread you have presented your opinion of what I actually believe as FACT.
    Never used the word fact, this is my opinion and I do believe my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Never used the word fact, this is my opinion and I do believe my opinion.
    So does CNN, but it doesn't make it fact.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    I dont care how anyone personally feels about the coach one way or the other, just like it shouldn't matter to anyone how I feel about the coach. Having optimism going into a season doesn't make me a hud lover, I'm just not miserable. His hate for hud is more than his love for the Cajuns...he would would rather see hud fail than see the Cajuns win. He would rather be right than see us win. It clearly bothers him that there might still be people out there supporting the man, if it didn't he wouldn't make it such a big deal all the time. He uses his former position to try to influence everyone to feel the same way he does about hud. Anytime you disagree with him you are instantly put into the "hud lover" category
    I strongly disagree with you on "his hate for Hud is more than his love for the Cajuns". I have seen T putting in 5000 pounds of program love behind the scenes when the rest of us were sleeping. I'll never question his passion for our football program to succeed. He was pulling on the Cajun football rope before Mark Hudspeth could find his way to Cajun Field without a map.

    As for Hud, I know people that don't even know T... that have never heard of T... that have never been associated with his "influence"... that literally hate Hud to the core. And they are Cajun fans to the core. Hud messed up with certain fans. That's on Hud... not T. I hope Hud can correct that blunder. T doesn't have to prove anything to me about his character. I know he's a stand up human being. If I read T destroying your character, I'll call him out on it. But you need to stop this BS about T's character.

    It bothers me to see people attack him, as a man, when he is a stand up man. He was in the business of giving his opinion on recruits, players and coaches. Mark Hudspeth is not paid to give his opinion on fans. And when he is dumb enough to made the mistake of thinking just because a sycophant radio personality can do it (and not get by with it)... that he can give it a shot... he's dumb. I want a smart coach that wins AND doesn't alienate a chunk of the fan base.

    Geaux Cajuns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I strongly disagree with you on "his hate for Hud is more than his love for the Cajuns". I have seen T putting in 5000 pounds of program love behind the scenes when the rest of us were sleeping. I'll never question his passion for our football program to succeed. He was pulling on the Cajun football rope before Mark Hudspeth could find his way to Cajun Field without a map.

    As for Hud, I know people that don't even know T... that have never heard of T... that have never been associated with his "influence"... that literally hate Hud to the core. And they are Cajun fans to the core. Hud messed up with certain fans. That's on Hud... not T. I hope Hud can correct that blunder. T doesn't have to prove anything to me about his character. I know he's a stand up human being. If I read T destroying your character, I'll call him out on it. But you need to stop this BS about T's character.

    It bothers me to see people attack him, as a man, when he is a stand up man. He was in the business of giving his opinion on recruits, players and coaches. Mark Hudspeth is not paid to give his opinion on fans. And when he is dumb enough to made the mistake of thinking just because a sycophant radio personality can do it (and not get by with it)... that he can give it a shot... he's dumb. I want a smart coach that wins AND doesn't alienate a chunk of the fan base.

    Geaux Cajuns!
    I don't judge a man's character by the way he supports a sport...being a sports fan is meaningless when it comes to character. Maybe some take kids playing a game a little too serious and that's the disconnect. Calling people on their bullsht isn't attacking someone's character.itd just that, calling them on bullsht. How about the players that used to give him interviews? Now they get to hear him talk about how they aren't good enough and lack talent and can't win...but they were good enough when he needed material for a radio show.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    He sure doesn't act like it...or post like it I should say...still waiting on that mass team exodus from the big scandal announcement.
    The local DA almost made it happen. But what T didn't count on was the fact that Hud will allow athletes to behave any way they want.

    How do you predict we'll do this season? Give me your assessment of how well we'll do this season... both in wins/losses and attendance. I'm curious to see if Hud's first year of 9-4 (with a bowl win) and an average home attendance close to 30,000 ... under that starting salary and very few of his own recruits running his schemes for the first time... compares to his year 7 (salary, scheme, recruits) win/loss and attendance prediction you have for this coming year. I want to see if your love of program and neutral position on Hud is rational or irrational.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    I don't judge a man's character by the way he supports a sport...being a sports fan is meaningless when it comes to character. Maybe some take kids playing a game a little too serious and that's the disconnect. Calling people on their bullsht isn't attacking someone's character.itd just that, calling them on bullsht. How about the players that used to give him interviews? Now they get to hear him talk about how they aren't good enough and lack talent and can't win...but they were good enough when he needed material for a radio show.
    I know his character... and you are attacking his character with much of your post content. Even these last comments on "interviewing players... then assessing a lack of talent" being a "radio show material game" is attacking his character.

    Everyone in the circuit of interviewing and talking to college athletes... that assesses talent... is required to be courteous to the athlete... and honest about talent evaluation. What's your point? If that's an attempt to discredit T... you're FOS.

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