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    All I can say, if I hear the words "turnover battle" used once this year I will f'ing lose it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    First, I'm assuming you are having us win all games outside of the Ole Miss and Texas A&M game.
    No. I see us dropping the first game of the season as the offense has some growing pains with the new QB and OC. After that, its gang busters.

    We'll drop one road game, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    If we get to 7-0 in conference, how we play in game 8 will determine if we go 8-0...not the fact that we have never been 8-0...has absolutely no effect on the outcome of that 8th game. So saying we won't do something simply because we never did it before isn't a valid point. We had never been to back to back bowls..or 3...or 4. Hudspeth and his staffs have accomplished a lot of never befores here but that gets lost on people because of their disdain for the man.
    Sorry, NCAA college football is not a video game, you can't take the human element and other variables out of the equation. I understand what you are saying, the performance in that specific game will determine outcome. But good seasons are not just determined by single game performances, but overcoming other variables like injuries, being out coached or out schemed.

    But let's take you scenario of being 7-0 going into an 8th game and that game is against App. State. So, are you saying that the fact that Satterfield and his staff have completely dominated Hudspeth and his teams in every game since joining the SBC, and no current player on this team has ever won a game against the Mountaineers is not a mental obstacle to overcome? The injuries going into to that game wouldn't have an effect on the game plan? He has yet to overcome the obstacles necessary to defeat App. State over the past three years. He hasn't won every conference game at home the past two seasons. His record or body of work is predicator to what to expect from Hudspeth and his staff. It doesn't mean it will play out that way, but I think it's ridiculous to completely dismiss past performance in any job position and say it has no bearing in relation to future performance.JMO

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    Just look at Tulane's 1998 season to see Hark's point. They won 18 games the previous 7 seasons combined.

    With that said, I wouldn't even bet a penny that we do that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by duggie85 View Post
    Just look at Tulane's 1998 season to see Hark's point. They won 18 games the previous 7 seasons combined.

    With that said, I wouldn't even bet a penny that we do that!
    Exactly...we aren't taking 13-0...we are talking about putting a team on the field to run the sun belt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Exactly...we aren't taking 13-0...we are talking about putting a team on the field to run the sun belt
    Back just 2 months ago I was feeling upbeat and juiced about this season. That was based on what a few coaches told me about JD progress as well as the new coaches influence. Not going to lie, Hud is a poor mans Miles and stubbornness is a bad trait when added with arrogance and a God complex. So to sum it up, I dont have a clue. Just hoping for the best best because I hate being a cellar dwellar in the fun belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Sorry, NCAA college football is not a video game, you can't take the human element and other variables out of the equation. I understand what you are saying, the performance in that specific game will determine outcome. But good seasons are not just determined by single game performances, but overcoming other variables like injuries, being out coached or out schemed.

    But let's take you scenario of being 7-0 going into an 8th game and that game is against App. State. So, are you saying that the fact that Satterfield and his staff have completely dominated Hudspeth and his teams in every game since joining the SBC, and no current player on this team has ever won a game against the Mountaineers is not a mental obstacle to overcome? The injuries going into to that game wouldn't have an effect on the game plan? He has yet to overcome the obstacles necessary to defeat App. State over the past three years. He hasn't won every conference game at home the past two seasons. His record or body of work is predicator to what to expect from Hudspeth and his staff. It doesn't mean it will play out that way, but I think it's ridiculous to completely dismiss past performance in any job position and say it has no bearing in relation to future performance.JMO
    Where did I say any of that? Saying you can't do something just because you haven't done it before is stupid, about anything, not sure how much more clear I can make that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Where did I say any of that? Saying you can't do something just because you haven't done it before is stupid, about anything, not sure how much more clear I can make that.
    CajunT said:
    "I disagree! One's performance in the past is a partial projection on what type of results you can expect.It doesn't mean a person isn't capable of performing better, but haven't achieved something certainly leaves reasonable doubt."

    So where did I say that just because he hasn't done it, he can't? I clearly stated that past performances are partial projectors of what type of results you can expect. Nowhere did I say he can not accomplish it.Projections are based upon past performances, it's that simple.Please tell where in your world it isn't so daily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggie85 View Post
    Just look at Tulane's 1998 season to see Hark's point. They won 18 games the previous 7 seasons combined.

    With that said, I wouldn't even bet a penny that we do that!
    Yes, and I bet no one predicted they would have went undefeated right? Projections are based upon past performances, it's doesn't mean a person or team can not accomplish better results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    CajunT said:
    "I disagree! One's performance in the past is a partial projection on what type of results you can expect.It doesn't mean a person isn't capable of performing better, but haven't achieved something certainly leaves reasonable doubt."

    So where did I say that just because he hasn't done it, he can't? I clearly stated that past performances are partial projectors of what type of results you can expect. Nowhere did I say he can not accomplish it.Projections are based upon past performances, it's that simple.Please tell where in your world it isn't so daily?
    As usual you injected yourself into a conversation assuming someone said something. Only thing I ever said is that just because it hasn't been done before doesn't mean it can't be done, and then everyone starts spouting off like I predicted they would go undefeated... where I said over and over I don't think that we will be very good but for many reason besides the lack of thought that it takes to say "well this won't happen because it just never has before" so go back to drinking and misreading posts. If we manage to somehow go 7-1 in conference this year and return everyone, will nobody predict 8-0 Next year simply because it's never been done? Have a great day

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