Football Season: Reasons to be negative.

[CajunT]

If we get to 7-0 in conference, how we play in game 8 will determine if we go 8-0...not the fact that we have never been 8-0...has absolutely no effect on the outcome of that 8th game. So saying we won't do something simply because we never did it before isn't a valid point. We had never been to back to back bowls..or 3...or 4. Hudspeth and his staffs have accomplished a lot of never befores here but that gets lost on people because of their disdain for the man.

Sorry, NCAA college football is not a video game, you can't take the human element and other variables out of the equation. I understand what you are saying, the performance in that specific game will determine outcome. But good seasons are not just determined by single game performances, but overcoming other variables like injuries, being out coached or out schemed.

But let's take you scenario of being 7-0 going into an 8th game and that game is against App. State. So, are you saying that the fact that Satterfield and his staff have completely dominated Hudspeth and his teams in every game since joining the SBC, and no current player on this team has ever won a game against the Mountaineers is not a mental obstacle to overcome? The injuries going into to that game wouldn't have an effect on the game plan? He has yet to overcome the obstacles necessary to defeat App. State over the past three years. He hasn't won every conference game at home the past two seasons. His record or body of work is predicator to what to expect from Hudspeth and his staff. It doesn't mean it will play out that way, but I think it's ridiculous to completely dismiss past performance in any job position and say it has no bearing in relation to future performance.JMO

[duggie85]

Just look at Tulane's 1998 season to see Hark's point. They won 18 games the previous 7 seasons combined.

With that said, I wouldn't even bet a penny that we do that!

[Hark Mudspeth]

Just look at Tulane's 1998 season to see Hark's point. They won 18 games the previous 7 seasons combined.

With that said, I wouldn't even bet a penny that we do that!

Exactly...we aren't taking 13-0...we are talking about putting a team on the field to run the sun belt

[angeleast]

Exactly...we aren't taking 13-0...we are talking about putting a team on the field to run the sun belt

Back just 2 months ago I was feeling upbeat and juiced about this season. That was based on what a few coaches told me about JD progress as well as the new coaches influence. Not going to lie, Hud is a poor mans Miles and stubbornness is a bad trait when added with arrogance and a God complex. So to sum it up, I dont have a clue. Just hoping for the best best because I hate being a cellar dwellar in the fun belt.

[Hark Mudspeth]

Sorry, NCAA college football is not a video game, you can't take the human element and other variables out of the equation. I understand what you are saying, the performance in that specific game will determine outcome. But good seasons are not just determined by single game performances, but overcoming other variables like injuries, being out coached or out schemed.

But let's take you scenario of being 7-0 going into an 8th game and that game is against App. State. So, are you saying that the fact that Satterfield and his staff have completely dominated Hudspeth and his teams in every game since joining the SBC, and no current player on this team has ever won a game against the Mountaineers is not a mental obstacle to overcome? The injuries going into to that game wouldn't have an effect on the game plan? He has yet to overcome the obstacles necessary to defeat App. State over the past three years. He hasn't won every conference game at home the past two seasons. His record or body of work is predicator to what to expect from Hudspeth and his staff. It doesn't mean it will play out that way, but I think it's ridiculous to completely dismiss past performance in any job position and say it has no bearing in relation to future performance.JMO

Where did I say any of that? Saying you can't do something just because you haven't done it before is stupid, about anything, not sure how much more clear I can make that.

[CajunT]

Where did I say any of that? Saying you can't do something just because you haven't done it before is stupid, about anything, not sure how much more clear I can make that.

CajunT said:
"I disagree! One's performance in the past is a partial projection on what type of results you can expect.It doesn't mean a person isn't capable of performing better, but haven't achieved something certainly leaves reasonable doubt."

So where did I say that just because he hasn't done it, he can't? I clearly stated that past performances are partial projectors of what type of results you can expect. Nowhere did I say he can not accomplish it.Projections are based upon past performances, it's that simple.Please tell where in your world it isn't so daily?

[CajunT]

Just look at Tulane's 1998 season to see Hark's point. They won 18 games the previous 7 seasons combined.

With that said, I wouldn't even bet a penny that we do that!

Yes, and I bet no one predicted they would have went undefeated right? Projections are based upon past performances, it's doesn't mean a person or team can not accomplish better results.

[Hark Mudspeth]

CajunT said:
"I disagree! One's performance in the past is a partial projection on what type of results you can expect.It doesn't mean a person isn't capable of performing better, but haven't achieved something certainly leaves reasonable doubt."

So where did I say that just because he hasn't done it, he can't? I clearly stated that past performances are partial projectors of what type of results you can expect. Nowhere did I say he can not accomplish it.Projections are based upon past performances, it's that simple.Please tell where in your world it isn't so daily?

As usual you injected yourself into a conversation assuming someone said something. Only thing I ever said is that just because it hasn't been done before doesn't mean it can't be done, and then everyone starts spouting off like I predicted they would go undefeated... where I said over and over I don't think that we will be very good but for many reason besides the lack of thought that it takes to say "well this won't happen because it just never has before" so go back to drinking and misreading posts. If we manage to somehow go 7-1 in conference this year and return everyone, will nobody predict 8-0 Next year simply because it's never been done? Have a great day

[ZoomZoom]

No. I see us dropping the first game of the season as the offense has some growing pains with the new QB and OC.

If that happens, Maggard will have his next major fundraising project, buying out Hud.

[zephyr]

Having never done something before is the not a valid point, has no bearing on what can be done. I don't think we will go undefeated in conference but has nothing to do with not doing it before. First time for everything.

The point is that with better teams we have always had the ____ your bed games that have disallowed us from doing it before. That never doing it before is not necessarily the point, the trend of inconsistency in conference play is a valid point though unless you can show me where I'm wrong.

[zephyr]

Not arguing for it or against it or saying people aren't justified in their disdain, or that I don't have some myself but some are blinded by it.... but the man and his staff have accomplished several things on and off the field that have never been done before at this university. To say something can't be done simply because it hasn't been done before is silly IMO and isn't a valid reason for why something can't be done. It's the sunbelt, anyone, including us, is quite capable of running the table in conference.

Everybody sees what Hudspeth has done in the past and everyone sees that he took this program to another level. However, the lack of progression over his tenure is what people are upset about especially when coupled with some of the things we've seen in how he handles his players and staff. I have been as big a fan of his as anybody here but I've also seen some real head scratching things and the frustration of watching that offense bang its head against a wall last year time and time again was a real hard pill to swallow.

[cajunhawk]

Why is it so hard to grasp that prior performance is an adequate way to forecast a team? Can the unexpected happen? Sure. Will it happen? Based on prior performance...no.