Originally Posted by RaginRash
That was freaking funny!!!!!!!!!!!!![]()
Originally Posted by RaginRash
That was freaking funny!!!!!!!!!!!!![]()
Tracking the Advertiser's ventricosed story
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Below is the timeline of quotes on the day they appeared in the Advertiser. in most cases it was not disclosed when the quotes were obtained.
ADVERTISER's INVESTIGATION (not NCAA's)
Day DATE Person quote or info Thursday, 9th EVENT: Thursday prior to any interview: The Advertiser filed a state public records request Thursday for all correspondence between the athletic department and the NCAA involving the men's basketball program from Aug. 1, 2004, to the present Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "Coach Lee paid for me to take classes during the summer" Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "Coach Lee ... paid for my summer school, my books and he gave me $150 twice. I also received a bus ticket." Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "Coach Lee ... paid for my … books and he gave me $150 twice. I also received a bus ticket." Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "Coach Lee ... gave me $150 twice. I also received a bus ticket." Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "I also received a bus ticket." Sunday, 12th Jordan hearsay: "Schexnayder said he would turn it in to the NCAA himself." Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "I talked to him (Schexnayder) face-to-face," Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: "I told him everything that was going on" Sunday, 12th Jordan hearsay: "he (Schexnayder) said that he would turn it in to the NCAA himself, because this was serious" Sunday, 12th Jordan hearsay: "He (Schexnayder) told me that I had to leave." Sunday, 12th Jordan claims: he "went to the NCAA late last year in November or December." Sunday, 12th Schexnayder stated: "I wouldn't comment on that," Sunday, 12th Schexnayder stated: "I heard some of the rumors involving an athlete that came to the university," Sunday, 12th Schexnayder stated: "what we have learned is that there is no violation" Sunday, 12th Schexnayder stated: "I'm not aware of any major rule violations by our university in any sport." Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "I'm not bitter," Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "Not at all. I just don't want them to do this to someone else." Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "I don't want to see anyone go through what I went through. It was depressing." Monday, 13th Jordan claims: "I left Arkansas because coach Richardson was fired," Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "I didn't really like how that situation was handled." Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "I was a red-shirt sophomore," Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "Because of that, I only could play one season at a junior college." Monday, 13th Jordan claims: "When I signed, coach (Jessie) Evans was the head coach," Monday, 13th Jordan claims: "And then once he left and coach (Glynn) Cyprien took over, he asked me if I still wanted to come" Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "I said, 'Yeah.' Then he was fired and coach (Robert) Lee took over and I still wanted to come." Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "I told the truth," Monday, 13th Jordan stated: "Because I told the truth and was honest, I can continue playing." Tuesday, 14th Authement said: the school has received no formal notification of an investigation by the NCAA into claims of wrongdoing in the men's basketball program Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: "We've had no correspondence with the NCAA or anyone else on the matter," Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: "Usually, with NCAA investigations, you don't get the results until they are complete." Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: "We have no notification that there is an investigation. Normally, we would be notified if that were the case," Tuesday, 14th Advertiser reports: Advertiser reports of record request from before any interview. Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: "David Walker, who represents us on in-house matters, and (compliance director) Kristi Stake are going over the documents to see which ones seem pertinent to this case," Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: "I've been in this long enough to take everything seriously," Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: ""We'll go about ascertaining the facts, and then say this is what we're going to do." Tuesday, 14th Authement stated: "Jordan was a recruit, he wasn't a student, so he wasn't involved in anything. Obviously, if it turns into something and it merits some kind of response, then we're being very, very cautious." Tuesday, 14th Jimmy Williams stated: "I have no idea what's going on with that," Tuesday, 14th Jimmy Williams stated: "All I know is the stories I've heard. But, I don't know anything about it. When the alleged things occurred, I was here in Oklahoma and Berry was in Florida." Tuesday, 14th Jimmy Williams stated: "We weren't close. He called me a few times when he left (UL) and couldn't get in school there. He was trying to find a place to go to school." Tuesday, 14th Mike Peacock stated: He joined the team in January when he regained eligibility, but left the team in February before the season was concluded Wednesday, 15th Schexnayder stated: "Yes, they took place," Wednesday, 15th Schexnayder stated: "I wasn't in the interviews, so I don't know what was said. And even if I was in the interview, I wouldn't be able to comment on it." Wednesday, 15th Lee stated: "I have no comment on that," Wednesday, 15th Lee stated: "I have nothing at all to say." Wednesday, 15th Jordan claims: the staff provided him a bus ticket to his hometown of Jacksonville, Fla Wednesday, 15th Jordan claims: his collegiate transcript lists UL classes he did not attend. Wednesday, 15th Matheson said: he would like to spend one hour each with players Cletis Fobbs, Alphonso Williams, Ross Mouton, Rhett Hebert and Adam James; an hour and a half each with Tiras Wade, Spencer Ford, Chris Cameron, Derek Gray, Dwayne Mitchell and Brian Hamilton; and two hours each with Orien Greene and Anthony Rhodman. Matheson asked for an hour with assistant coaches Rennie Bailey and Jason Kennemer, an hour and a half with recently departed assistant Carlin Hartman; and three hours with Lee. Wednesday, 15th Jordan said: he found he was not listed in the registrar's office for the fall. Wednesday, 15th administrative assistant stated: Jordan had applied to UL in the fall of 2004 but never attended Wednesday, 15th Jordan said: he was housed at the UL Conference Center until being asked to leave in late October. Wednesday, 15th Jordan stated: "I was upset and nothing was going the way it was supposed to go," Wednesday, 15th Jordan stated: "So, in late August or early September I asked coach Hartman for my release. That's when he told me I wasn't on scholarship." Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett said: the school will be updated in coming months on what actions the NCAA is planning to take. Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "We don't comment on investigations in progress, and I don't know where we are in the process (with UL's case). Our bylaws require that in six months we let the school know 'this is where we currently stand and what point we are at in the investigation.' " Thursday, 16th Jordan claims: coach Robert Lee paid for him to attend summer school at Florida Community College in Jacksonville, Fla Thursday, 16th Jordan claims: that twice he received payments of $150 each from the coaching staff. Thursday, 16th Jordan claims: the staff provided a bus ticket to his hometown of Jacksonville. Thursday, 16th Authement stated: "The guy came in and questioned a lot of people," Thursday, 16th Authement stated: "They were here on a fact-finding mission." Thursday, 16th Authement stated: "When these things occur, you can't tell whether the NCAA is investigating us, or coaches who were here or another person. You never know where things go," Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "We don't comment on investigations in progress, and I don't know where we are in the process (with UL's case). Our bylaws require that in six months we let the school know 'this is where we currently stand and what point we are at in the investigation.' " Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "Our process is that we make a determination whether there is reasonable cause to begin an investigation, and once that occurs we're investigating," Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: the NCAA usually has no problem getting information from schools. Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "Often, schools cooperate with us," Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "They are required to self-report if there is some sort of infraction. I don't know if it goes better for them if they self-report, but if they know about something and don't report the circumstances, then the committee is not likely to look on it too favorably. Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "We've always noted when a school has been especially forthcoming, but it's taken on a case-by-case basis." Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "The notice of allegations comes out after the investigation," Thursday, 16th Kent Barrett stated: "By then you have a reasonably good idea what we're talking about, and quite often there is an additional request for more information." Thursday, 16th Authement stated: "As chief executive officer, I have not been contacted about a full investigation," Friday, 17th Authement stated: "NCAA is conducting fact-finding mission, not investigation" Friday, 17th Authement stated: an NCAA inquiry into the Ragin' Cajuns basketball team has not escalated into an official investigation. Friday, 17th Authement stated: an NCAA visit to the campus in April to interview players and coaches was part of a "fact-finding mission" Friday, 17th Authement stated: the NCAA has repeatedly told his staff that if there was any cause for an investigation, he would receive a written notice. Friday, 17th Authement stated: "The day we get a letter that there's an investigation, we'll hold a press conference," Friday, 17th Authement stated: "If we get word of an investigation and it shows that Robert Lee paid him $150 and all of this stuff, we're going to investigate that totally, but we have not been told that officially" Friday, 17th Authement stated: "I only read it in the damn newspaper. That's all I know," Friday, 17th NCAA spokes() uttered: "investigation" Friday, 17th Authement stated: that was misleading Friday, 17th Kristi Stake stated: "It definitely was not an investigation," Friday, 17th Kristi Stake stated: "The NCAA made it quite clear to us that it was not an investigation. It was a fact-finding mission." Friday, 17th Authement said: the NCAA has also told the university to hold off in doing its own investigation until the NCAA fact-finding mission is complete. Friday, 17th Authement stated: (on 1973 NCAA investigation) "And you'll find I fired everyone involved," Friday, 17th David Walker stated: The NCAA also has not given the university any indication that their questions or interviews have centered around Jordan's allegations Friday, 17th David Walker mused: why Jordan, if he is the complainant, has ignored the "gag order" that the NCAA makes individuals sign during ongoing probes. Friday, 17th David Walker stated: "We've never been given anything in writing" Friday, 17th David Walker stated: "We're being told there is no investigation." Friday, 17th David Walker stated: Obviously, we're between a rock and a hard place because we cannot comment on this," Friday, 17th David Walker stated: "We haven't been given an opportunity to say this is our side of the story because we don't know what the story is," Friday, 17th Authement said: he felt that previous newspaper reports "insinuated" that he was covering up an investigation and that his "integrity was questioned on the front page of the paper." Friday, 17th Authement stated: "I've never covered up anything and to insinuate that is totally unfair," Friday, 17th Authement stated: "I haven't talked to Berry," Friday, 17th Authement stated: "That's what the next step is. When I am notified that there's an investigation, I will make damn sure that I know every point that is at stake. Friday, 17th Authement stated: To question me about something that has not been investigated - you have the information, I don't."
Now that I have read everything here is the deal. This is overblown, very little real news for a weeks worth of writing. I have one question though, what does "I'm not a Saturday radio host" have to do with anything?
The one thing that frustrates me is that the Advertiser has not written that Jordan was not eligible and that was why he was asked to leave. Everyone who posts here knows that. However, not everyone who reads the Advertiser does and not everyone who is a fan of another school getting third hand reports knows that. I don't know why they are reluctant to print that simple fact.Originally Posted by Turbine
"I don't know why they are reluctant to print that simple fact."
I do. Instead of all the attention being focused on athletics, it's now focused on the people who just write about athletics. Look at me, I'm a star, I'm like Geraldo!
If anyone should know what a full-blown NCAA investigation looks, feels and tastes like, the list would include University of Louisiana President Ray Authement.
Authement has been at the university for more than 30 years and knows first-hand about the 1973 investigation that resulted in a two-year suspension of the men's basketball program.
"It was very extensive," Authement said. "We spent at least four months investigating, documenting and answering the NCAA's questions."
Authement was the university's vice president at the time and chaired the committee that wrote answers to the NCAA's questions.
"I recommended certain actions be taken that I was turned down on," he said. "I feel had we taken those actions early, the NCAA would not have come down on us as they did. But I didn't prevail at the time."
A staggering number of allegations was made in that case, which prompted the NCAA's first death penalty before the term was used for SMU football in the 1980's.
"It was alleged that there were monies given to basketball players after a win, and how that money was exchanged," Authement said.
"There was a player who flunked freshman math, but had four A's in graduate (level) math.
"It was alleged that people were flown in from certain states to take exams for players.
"They said we bought a belt for a recruit. What happened there was that he was in a pick-up basketball game and his belt broke, so we got him a belt. They (investigators) went to Abdalla's and found the belt."
Once the dust settled in 1973, UL President Clyde Rougeau resigned and Authement ascended to his current position. He then had the unhappy duty of cleaning up after the mess.
It was a dark chapter in UL history, and something Authement has strived to prevent since then.
So, Authement naturally wanted a clear indication of the NCAA's intentions in April when its enforcement arm requested interviews with the basketball team and staff.
Former recruit Berry Jordan has alleged infractions by coach Robert Lee and his staff, and Dan Matheson was dispatched to conduct the interviews. In his correspondence with the university, Matheson used the word "investigation."
"I asked several times if we were under investigation and was told no, that it was a fact-finding mission," Authement said. "I was told I would be informed in writing of any formal investigation.
"When I was asked if we were under investigation, I said no. I've never covered up anything and I don't intend to start now."
The rest of the story
Bruce Brown
On the Line
According to "three puppies"... or "two doggies"... or whatever his name is... we MUST be hiding something! We MUST run a dirty program or why else would they be here?
Ever heard of letting the facts come out to determine if someone is guilty of anything?
It is amazing how non-fans and non-supporters always seem to stick their noses where they don't belong and aren't welcomed!
Originally Posted by CajunRed
Let the facts come out? Naw, that's not how they do it at corndoggy's favorite place of worship. they just threaten the instructor's lilfe and/or pay them hush money. No need to let facts come out over there.
The University of Louisiana athletic department will not contest the four secondary violations handed down by the NCAA in a notice of allegations received Tuesday.
UL interim athletic director David Walker said in a university release that the department agrees with the facts in the allegations and will not request a hearing before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions. Resolution of the case and assessment of penalties will be done through the NCAA's summary disposition process.
"The university will work in cooperation with the NCAA enforcement staff to prepare the Summary Disposition Report, and the report will then be presented to the Infractions Committee," Walker said in the release. "The university will recommend self-imposed penalties and corrective actions that we feel are appropriate to address the violations."
The university received notice Tuesday of four alleged violations, two each in football and men's basketball. The allegations involve certification of eligibility for former basketball player Orien Greene involving correspondence courses, and improper contact by coaches with football players during summer workouts and illegal awarding of T-shirts for performances in fall games and spring drills.
All are considered secondary violations by the NCAA enforcement staff. The summary disposition process may be used since the university does not fall under the repeat-violator provision.
The rest of the story
Dan McDonald
dmcdonald@theadvertiser.com
T-SHIRTS????? I'm sure glad that this t-shirt giving business got "nipped in the bud" before it got out of hand. Next thing you know, the coaching staff may have started handing out sweatbands or hats! Just think of how much trouble we'd be in then!!! This seems absolutely absurd. Can anyone tell me how frequent some of these violations are handed out for other schools?
Originally Posted by cajunlove
I'm sitting here waiting for "3 1/2 puppies" to call KPEL and apologize to the University and to Coach Lee for his comments when this was first reported... but I'm sure he doesn't have enough class to do so!
Freakin' T- SHIRTS?!?! Are you kidding me??Originally Posted by cajunlove
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