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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfanatic21 View Post
    I have no inside info, nor claim to know anything. But what I think will happen is...Haack leaves, either by transfer or ending his football journey. Nixon moves to RB. Davis is the full time starter, Weaver the backup, and Ray is a full time player at another position.
    This is the most likely scenario, with Ray possibly moving to RB as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    2015 comes across as Hud's throwaway season.

    Putting the offense on hold was a lot easier than learning/teaching a new offense in 2015 before returning to the comfort zone in 2016.

    There is something to be said for consistency but not if the currency is a throwaway season.

    I could be wrong and its jmo
    There was no reason to throw the season away. Haack didn't require a different offense. Our offense has a lot of plays built around Haack's throwing ability. Haack should have been allowed to run the offense as the QB unless/until he got injured. Eli should have been catching screens and check downs out of the backfield (all in our playbook)... and almost never running it up the gut. Nixon should have come in as a RB and Eli moved to the slot. That would have generated way more deception for defenses... and it would have given Haack and our OC some tremendous options. We half assed a play selection from our playbook in order to keep the dream alive of a dual threat QB... that really wasn't there for us.

    Davis should have been Haack's #2 to get ready for our future. He needed to see a series or two in a couple of games, specifically to learn to throw high percentage passes (we have way too few high percentage routes... but that's another story)... not to see if he can run. Running isn't a skill an ahtlete needs to be taught.

    And anyone with half a brain knows that you can succeed with a QB that throws well... but isn't a gifted runner... but you cannot succeed with a QB that runs well... but isn't a gifted passer. The first cure going into next year is our offensive coaching staff getting committed to intelligent play calling and player utilization... and making sure the best passer gets selected and helped to link up with his receiver corps... and never to be second-guessed unless and until he absolutely fails.

    Hud would love to use your argument that he threw this season away for a better next year. That is not what happened. It got taken away from him by coaches and athletes from other schools that saw how inept our program management was. 8 teams ate our lunch coaching wise this past year. We were not out athleted by 8 of the 12 programs we played this past year.

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    T, what are Dion Ray's prospects at another position should he not win the QB job? And what position would be the best fit for him? RB, WR, DB??


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    Never mind. Just saw your last post about Ray at RB


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    Quote Originally Posted by alum81 View Post
    Don't be shocked when Hud sticks with Nixon. When he likes a player he will not change his mind.
    Don't be shocked when we lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    ... no reason to ... That is not what happened.
    2015 sure came across as Hud's throwaway season. We can't get it back.

    Not that there was a valid reason for a quarterback swap meet, that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    There was no reason to throw the season away. Haack didn't require a different offense. Our offense has a lot of plays built around Haack's throwing ability. Haack should have been allowed to run the offense as the QB unless/until he got injured. Eli should have been catching screens and check downs out of the backfield (all in our playbook)... and almost never running it up the gut. Nixon should have come in as a RB and Eli moved to the slot. That would have generated way more deception for defenses... and it would have given Haack and our OC some tremendous options. We half assed a play selection from our playbook in order to keep the dream alive of a dual threat QB... that really wasn't there for us.

    Davis should have been Haack's #2 to get ready for our future. He needed to see a series or two in a couple of games, specifically to learn to throw high percentage passes (we have way too few high percentage routes... but that's another story)... not to see if he can run. Running isn't a skill an ahtlete needs to be taught.

    And anyone with half a brain knows that you can succeed with a QB that throws well... but isn't a gifted runner... but you cannot succeed with a QB that runs well... but isn't a gifted passer. The first cure going into next year is our offensive coaching staff getting committed to intelligent play calling and player utilization... and making sure the best passer gets selected and helped to link up with his receiver corps... and never to be second-guessed unless and until he absolutely fails.

    Hud would love to use your argument that he threw this season away for a better next year. That is not what happened. It got taken away from him by coaches and athletes from other schools that saw how inept our program management was. 8 teams ate our lunch coaching wise this past year. We were not out athleted by 8 of the 12 programs we played this past year.

    Not necessarily my friend. Mike D helped set offensive records here and he did it by being a runner. I'm not saying that is the norm, but it is possible to be successful with a QB who is a gifted runner and not a great passer. That said, obviously it's preferable to have a gifted passer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    Not necessarily my friend. Mike D helped set offensive records here and he did it by being a runner. I'm not saying that is the norm, but it is possible to be successful with a QB who is a gifted runner and not a great passer. That said, obviously it's preferable to have a gifted passer.
    That was a great example of a coach adapting his offensive gameplan to a guy with unique abilities. You know, adjusting scheme to personnel, not the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    Not necessarily my friend. Mike D helped set offensive records here and he did it by being a runner. I'm not saying that is the norm, but it is possible to be successful with a QB who is a gifted runner and not a great passer. That said, obviously it's preferable to have a gifted passer.
    Mike D had one of the prettiest long arch passes I have seen, but Bustle wanted him to throw it on rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    There was no reason to throw the season away. Haack didn't require a different offense. Our offense has a lot of plays built around Haack's throwing ability. Haack should have been allowed to run the offense as the QB unless/until he got injured. Eli should have been catching screens and check downs out of the backfield (all in our playbook)... and almost never running it up the gut. Nixon should have come in as a RB and Eli moved to the slot. That would have generated way more deception for defenses... and it would have given Haack and our OC some tremendous options. We half assed a play selection from our playbook in order to keep the dream alive of a dual threat QB... that really wasn't there for us.

    Davis should have been Haack's #2 to get ready for our future. He needed to see a series or two in a couple of games, specifically to learn to throw high percentage passes (we have way too few high percentage routes... but that's another story)... not to see if he can run. Running isn't a skill an ahtlete needs to be taught.

    And anyone with half a brain knows that you can succeed with a QB that throws well... but isn't a gifted runner... but you cannot succeed with a QB that runs well... but isn't a gifted passer. The first cure going into next year is our offensive coaching staff getting committed to intelligent play calling and player utilization... and making sure the best passer gets selected and helped to link up with his receiver corps... and never to be second-guessed unless and until he absolutely fails.

    Hud would love to use your argument that he threw this season away for a better next year. That is not what happened. It got taken away from him by coaches and athletes from other schools that saw how inept our program management was. 8 teams ate our lunch coaching wise this past year. We were not out athleted by 8 of the 12 programs we played this past year.
    We weren't going to beat anybody with our passing attack this year, even with Haack at the QB. He was OK but he didn't lead scoring drives. Our receivers were not very good. This was not solely on the QB's to begin with. No separation, drops everywhere and predictable play calling was just as much to blame as the QB play. We absolutely ran no playaction, no bootlegs or anything to change the field of the defense.

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