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    Quote Originally Posted by wgwillis View Post
    I respect your feelings but I simply disagree. We have to many people and groups that think they have a right to tell others what to do. The law is good enough for me.
    I'm guessing that if Penn St doesn't want to be a part of the NCAA anymore (their choice) then the NCAA's penalties mean nothing. But since they want to be members of the NCAA, that organization has the right to penalize them as they see fit. Paterno and his "superiors" covered up these terrible crimes in order to safeguard the football program. Anything that occured after the point were the coverup began certainly affected the wins and losses, recruiting, and revenue of the program....and the NCAA is the governing body (a governing body that Penn State is a willing member of) for all of those things. Paterno and his bosses obviously believed publicity about the crimes would have hurt the program, otherwise there would have been no coverup.

    At least on first glance this penalty seems very appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgwillis View Post
    I respect your feelings but I simply disagree. We have to many people and groups that think they have a right to tell others what to do. The law is good enough for me.
    Penn State is a member of the NCAA. While a member of this association, Penn State became a highly successful athletic program. The primary reason this crime went unreported, unacted upon, blatantly ignored and allowed to continue was due to the damage it might have upon the image of not just Penn State University, but Penn State football. It is not just within the rights of the NCAA to administer penalties against PSU, it is their obligation. The NCAA is meaningless if they are not the first to step forward and declare that neither football, nor any other athletic program, is to be placed above the morality or laws of the land.

    The NCAA is not just "some group". They are the governing body of member collegiate athletics. They are not addressing the crimes committed. They are addressing this athletic institution's lack of institutional control. This person perpetrated his crimes either in the facilities of the athletic department, or at the very least by using his association with that program as a guise for access to young at-risk boys. That university needs to "feel it" from every side. And maybe, just maybe, some of the bloated administrative fat-cats at other universities just might act a little quicker to clean a criminal from their ranks... even at the risk of tainting a small piece of their beloved institution's image.

  3. #33

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    Too light without death penalty. PSU already raised over $100,000,000 in past year in new donations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Policarp View Post
    Too light without death penalty. PSU already raised over $100,000,000 in past year in new donations.
    But will they continue to support at that level with 7-8 years of 0-12 records? Remember, they will essentially be Nichols State playing a Big 10 Schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    But will they continue to support at that level with 7-8 years of 0-12 records? Remember, they will essentially be Nichols State playing a Big 10 Schedule.
    I am very disappointed that the sanctions did not include a ban on TV appearances. Without that, they will still get better players in their 15 scholarships than most MAC schools simply because they play other Big 10 schools. Hopefully the networks will impose an artificial ban on TV appearances.

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    Because Penn State doesn't have an appeal option, that seems to me that Penn State went to the NCAA and negotiated a deal and knew what they were going to be hit with before the announcement was made? NCAA never even had a chance to complete or really get started their own internal investigation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Policarp View Post
    Too light without death penalty. PSU already raised over $100,000,000 in past year in new donations.
    ---Totally agree----I remember when Coach Faulkinberry had to be a spokesman for the departed B-ball team at UL----he said that the 2 years would fly by ---they did and we came back very strong!!!! $60 mill not huge to overcome---less schollies only mean that many great ones will walk-on to play for Penn St-----4 years no Bowls--see S Cal----When the "ME TOOs" start to pop up with huge lawsuits---then the hurting will really begin----Shrinking endowment time if that money can be taken!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I am very disappointed that the sanctions did not include a ban on TV appearances. Without that, they will still get better players in their 15 scholarships than most MAC schools simply because they play other Big 10 schools. Hopefully the networks will impose an artificial ban on TV appearances.
    I think they need to be on TV. They are going to wish they were not (especially this coming season). Penn State is not Penn State without the old (not the new) legacy of Joe Pa. I think we'd be doing them a favor if they were banned from TV this coming season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Policarp View Post
    Too light without death penalty. PSU already raised over $100,000,000 in past year in new donations.
    You"re going to have to show me a source on this one. I read 2.08 million since the allegations first came to light.

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    This article says that Penn State raised $208million during the fiscal year that just ended, which is a slight uptick over the past 2 years. This is not EXTRA money over and above what they normally raise. It is about normal.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...dal/56115178/1


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