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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    It's not (necessarily) the #5 pick.

    Just as the SEC lists Cap One, Cotton and Outback as SEC 2-3-4, it's not in any particular order.

    After the Liberty, CUSA officially lists the rest of their bowls as CUSA 2-3-4-5

    While geography isn't the sole criteria for slotting the bowls, it's important.
    Doesn't the NO Bowl get the 5th CUSA "pick". I think VO made sure and stated "#5 pick"... not "5th place" team. I'm trying to understand what you mean by "not in any particular order". I know that the "picks" don't line up with the "ranking"... but if I look at the bowl tie-in and see "CUSA #5"... doesn't that mean that the NO Bowl waits until the bowls that have #1 through #4 have invited and secured their selection before they get their pick?

    Another question... if there were only 4 CUSA teams that get bowl eligible... can the bowl that has, for instance, the #3 CUSA tie-in... pass on CUSA and invite some team they prefer outside of CUSA... as long as the bowls that have #4 and #5 CUSA picks work it out to get the 2 remaining CUSA bowl eligible teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Doesn't the NO Bowl get the 5th CUSA "pick". I think VO made sure and stated "#5 pick"... not "5th place" team. I'm trying to understand what you mean by "not in any particular order". I know that the "picks" don't line up with the "ranking"... but if I look at the bowl tie-in and see "CUSA #5"... doesn't that mean that the NO Bowl waits until the bowls that have #1 through #4 have invited and secured their selection before they get their pick?

    Another question... if there were only 4 CUSA teams that get bowl eligible... can the bowl that has, for instance, the #3 CUSA tie-in... pass on CUSA and invite some team they prefer outside of CUSA... as long as the bowls that have #4 and #5 CUSA picks work it out to get the 2 remaining CUSA bowl eligible teams?
    My apologies if I wasn't clear.

    VO is correct in that he didn't state "5th place team."

    But, after LIberty, the four remaining CUSA bowls work together to try and get the teams slotted that will generate the best revenue.

    For instance, St. Petersburg would always like a Florida team first. Now, if they have the same team year after year, they'll want to change, but that's the rule of thumb.

    If the bowls are fighting over who they want, then the pecking order comes into play.

    But, like the Cap One, Cotton and OUtback, they usually come to a consensus.

    Therefore, it's VERY possible if HOuston is in the Liberty, Southern MIss could wind up in New Orleans.

    There's a matrix which isn't published but is sent out to commissoners, AD's and the like, which lists the bowls and where their choices fall.

    In that matrix, every bowl that CUSA has, other than Liberty is listed as CUSA 2,3,4,5.

    That differs from the projections you see because those folks don't know any better.

    Hope I did a better job this time.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

    Default Re: New Bowl Opponent

    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    My apologies if I wasn't clear.

    VO is correct in that he didn't state "5th place team."

    But, after LIberty, the four remaining CUSA bowls work together to try and get the teams slotted that will generate the best revenue.

    For instance, St. Petersburg would always like a Florida team first. Now, if they have the same team year after year, they'll want to change, but that's the rule of thumb.

    If the bowls are fighting over who they want, then the pecking order comes into play.

    But, like the Cap One, Cotton and OUtback, they usually come to a consensus.

    Therefore, it's VERY possible if HOuston is in the Liberty, Southern MIss could wind up in New Orleans.

    There's a matrix which isn't published but is sent out to commissoners, AD's and the like, which lists the bowls and where their choices fall.

    In that matrix, every bowl that CUSA has, other than Liberty is listed as CUSA 2,3,4,5.

    That differs from the projections you see because those folks don't know any better.

    Hope I did a better job this time.
    That explained it very well. Thanks.

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    What ARE the other CUSA Bowls besides the Liberty and the New Orleans. I assume St. Petersburg is one, since you cited it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    What ARE the other CUSA Bowls besides the Liberty and the New Orleans. I assume St. Petersburg is one, since you cited it.
    Actually, there are six: Liberty, St. Pete, New Orleans, Hawai'i, Armed forces, Ticket City. The Military Bowl is a backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCajun View Post
    Unless Case Keenum breaks a leg or worse, I don't see UHou losing at all this season, including whatever BCS bowl they get to play in.
    While it is possible Houston will get into a BCS bowl game, right now, Boise State is still ahead of them in the BCS rankings. Houston may pass them by strength of schedule with games left against 3 bowl eligible teams, and Boise finishing with 2. If they do get into a BCS bowl, don't expect them to be playing against someone they can light up like a Christmas tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    My apologies if I wasn't clear.

    VO is correct in that he didn't state "5th place team."

    But, after LIberty, the four remaining CUSA bowls work together to try and get the teams slotted that will generate the best revenue.

    For instance, St. Petersburg would always like a Florida team first. Now, if they have the same team year after year, they'll want to change, but that's the rule of thumb.

    If the bowls are fighting over who they want, then the pecking order comes into play.

    But, like the Cap One, Cotton and OUtback, they usually come to a consensus.

    Therefore, it's VERY possible if HOuston is in the Liberty, Southern MIss could wind up in New Orleans.

    There's a matrix which isn't published but is sent out to commissoners, AD's and the like, which lists the bowls and where their choices fall.

    In that matrix, every bowl that CUSA has, other than Liberty is listed as CUSA 2,3,4,5.

    That differs from the projections you see because those folks don't know any better.

    Hope I did a better job this time.
    You explained it quite well ... so well I am hoping you can explain exactly what a "bowl" is. I was going to call your show and ask but I can comprehend a written explanation much better.

    We (I) know a bowl is in business to make money. Can you take it from there. Who makes up a bowl (committee,etc.), what do they do with the money et al.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Worst Case: UL vs. Tech in the NOLA Bowl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    -------------Hey "Young Billy" are we being talked about on this board----
    Where? They speaking well of us?

    Where the rope? I have and can hang.. How late/long? (internet smiles)

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    Default Re: Worst Case: UL vs. Tech in the NOLA Bowl.

    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    Tech would bring 10,000 easy.
    Can I have a hit of what your smoking?

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    Default Re: Worst Case: UL vs. Tech in the NOLA Bowl.

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunZ1 View Post
    If Boomer and snote had a conversation on the internet, would anybody understand it?
    would anyone care? lol

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