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    1) It's spelled Orgeron.
    2) Read my post.
    3) Believe my post.
    4) Only lies have to make sense, the truth has no such obligation.
    5) Could Nick Saban win at Alabama if the "money gang" had pulled their support for him and decided to run him off prior to the first game he coached there?

    Personally, I am not on anyone's bandwagon, but I do agree that from a logical perspective, after considering the various alternatives, if UL can afford him he may be the best choice for several reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunHood View Post
    _ Ed Oregeon is not a good fit. He couldn't win at Ole Miss with all that money..........we have no money, how will he win here? Are you guys kidding me? Get off the Ed Oregeron bandwagon, it would be the 2nd worst hire in the programs history...................come on guys!!!!!!!

  2. #222

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    If Ogeron's asking price is $1,000,000 for him AND staff, Let's hire him now. The Current budget for football staff [NOT counting Bustle] is around $900,000; I suspect our salary budget for total staff next year will be in the neighborhood of $1,400,000.


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    rhineaux's Avatar rhineaux is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    I've seen a couple people mention Kirby Smart, but if I remember correctly, didn't he interview for the Texas Tech job last year? Nevermind, I just found something that said he was to interview, but it was an incorrect rumor. I was going to say that I would put him a few years ahead of Holgorson, in that he probably isn't far from a bigger job with a bigger check. Maybe he's about equal to Holgorson, though.

    As for Ed Orgeron...I'm not sure what to think about that guy. Anyone can say that his reputation is built on propaganda and that he's never been caught doing anything wrong and whatever else. Maybe that's correct and maybe it's not. I do know that Nick Saban doesn't have that sort of reputation, and the same goes for many other coaches who have opponents that would benefit from their name being soiled. One thing that is for certain is that if he is mostly clean, aside from a few little "T-Shirt" violations here or there, as a result of ignorance of the rules, that's fine. But, big schools have enough resources and enough people to make "T-Shirt" violations go away and UL doesn't. It's all about risk & reward. Getting a guy like EO in here could reap many benefits. However, whether or not his reputation is a result of propaganda or fact, there is some added risk. And, his record is what it is. Worst case, he is a bad coach. If he wasn't given a fair shake by the school/boosters, then best case is that he's an unknown as a HC. Either way, this adds more risk. At this point in its history, I'm not sure that what UL needs is a lot of risk. Then again, nothing is certain...EO could come in and run a clean program and bring great success, just like the "sure thing" hire could come in and run up a couple violations while sucking on the field.

    The other thing with EO, outside of the risk/reward aspect, is whether or not the rumors of him wanting the job are true. Normally I wouldn't put much stock into that, but being as it came about last year and his interest was verified, or at least the fact that there was a conversation, was verified; I suppose that there is something to this. My problem with this is WHY does he want the job? Does he view UL as a good place to prove himself as an HC, while being near family, because he knows that another major HC job isn't coming his way anytime soon? Or, is he tired of being a #2 guy and wants to settle down somewhere? If he is closer to the second reason than the first, then I would definitely tell him thanks, but no thanks. To me, the last thing we need is a guy who wants this job. Like we've said over and over again, we want a guy that wants to come here and leave in a few years. UL doesn't need a guy who wants to come here without having another destination in his plans. I want the Ath Dept to find a guy that they want, that may not really be interested at first...a guy that they have to sell the school to...a guy that probably doesn't see UL as a place that he wants to be at for very long (but may really like once he's here for a couple years). So, before I'd really want to consider EO, I'd want to know IF he really wants this job as much as some people says he does, and WHY he wants it.


  4. #224

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    I wonder if the thinking may be to offer the AD/Head Coach position to the next football coach to help maximize the pay scale like Tech did for Dooley?


  5. #225

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhineaux View Post
    I do know that Nick Saban doesn't have that sort of reputation, and the same goes for many other coaches who have opponents that would benefit from their name being soiled.
    My reference to Saban was related to an ability to win at a program with money as opposed to Orgeron's perceived inability to do so. Orgeron was being run out of town on a rail before he coached his first game at Ole Miss. The point I was trying to make was that even the best of coaches would find it nearly impossible to succeed in that environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer58 View Post
    _ Boomer, put down the Beast and notice all the little smiley faces. It was a joke. _
    Caught it as I read it---thought I would add a lil info to the board

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    Guess I'm to the point of wanting someone that will create a buzz for the program. Someone that can give recruits a desire to want to come here versus some other mid major. Regardless of who we get, we aren't going to steal recruits away from big BCS programs (LSU in particular) but we might be able to beat out lower level BCS/AQ teams and other regional mids (like Tech, USM, etc). That alone would give us a great boost in the SBC. We aren't far from being good now talent wise. So hopefully this new HC can get some frest talent and bring along a couple of up and coming coordinators to get the most out of our guys.

    As bad is it feels right now, the right hire can reenergize our fan base and program. Hope we get this right!


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    Quote Originally Posted by shof View Post
    _ Guess I'm to the point of wanting someone that will create a buzz for the program. Someone that can give recruits a desire to want to come here versus some other mid major. Regardless of who we get, we aren't going to steal recruits away from big BCS programs (LSU in particular) but we might be able to beat out lower level BCS/AQ teams and other regional mids (like Tech, USM, etc). That alone would give us a great boost in the SBC. We aren't far from being good now talent wise. So hopefully this new HC can get some frest talent and bring along a couple of up and coming coordinators to get the most out of our guys.

    As bad is it feels right now, the right hire can reenergize our fan base and program. Hope we get this right! _
    "frest talent "
    Hey Elmer, English Please! LOL!!!

  9. #229

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ Hey Elmer, English Please! LOL!!! _
    My english is fine; but my tpyingengnting sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shof View Post
    _ My english is fine; but my tpyingengnting sucks! _
    Its all good shof, I couldn't resist. Give your boy some slack sometimes!

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