Tech to the Belt?

[BeauCajun]

What is the temperature of that water

Room

[MarlinMan3]

Are people allowed to bring in their own water, what aboit camelbacks?

[CAJUNSby90]

Are people allowed to bring in their own water, what aboit camelbacks?

Yes, but you have to get them from your car at halftime then come back in.

[Turbine]

And for those who are unaware, there is water in the restrooms. It is fit for human consumption.

Good to know

How many times should I flush before filling up my jug?

[Cajunrunner]

Good to know

How many times should I flush before filling up my jug?

HA!

[no1cajunfan]

Look, I am willing to play Tech every year in every sport; but inviting them into the conference is a hard NO. It would be like inviting a fox into your chicken coop. Tech is poison; they have been poison in every conference they have ever joined. They won't change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H-H6zs5hyI

[Cajun90]

Schultz is on the money with the push back from the Eastern block of the SBC. They do not want Tech.

I'm really starting to believe that the SBC is going to stay at 13 for now and deal with the scheduling headaches.

[CajunT]

Schultz is on the money with the push back from the Eastern block of the SBC. They do not want Tech.

I'm really starting to believe that the SBC is going to stay at 13 for now and deal with the scheduling headaches.

If they do that then you will not have no divisions and still have a championship game? Makes little sense as do additions with no rivalry history or hatred. If we are looking at any member from CUSA the SBC will have to pay their exit fee unless they can raise the money and then take no conference money for the first 2 years.

[ZoomZoom]

Here’s why no to Tech…

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Post: #31RE: Why does seemingly everyone in the Sun Belt West want LA Tech to die in agony?
This will be long, but it will answer your question:

You can ask anyone who was in the SBC administration in the '90s and they will tell you Louisiana Tech was always the most uncooperative folks in the league. They were not in favor of growing the league unless there was something in it for them. And, they did have the "we are better than you" attitude and for the life of me I don't understand it.

When it was time to form the SBC football league, Louisiana Tech and Central Florida were part of the plan. Tech decided they were too good for the Sun Belt and applied for membership in the WAC. UCF said they weren't going without Tech. Wright Waters was still able to put together a football league but it wasn't easy. North Texas, Arkansas State, Louisiana, Idaho, New Mexico State, Middle Tennessee and ULM were the charter members (Idaho and ULM were football only.)

When Tech made their decision, the Women's SBC tournament was pulled out of North Louisiana. Tech cried foul.

Meanwhile, Tech joined the WAC where Rice, SMU, Tulsa and UTEP resided. They believed being associated with those schools would help them get a CUSA invite. (Tech made no bones about the fact CUSA was their desired league. But it backfired in 2004 when those schools left and Louisiana Tech was on an island. Their closest "rival" was New Mexico State, which was farther from Ruston than Pittsburgh.

When Derek Dooley was named athletic director, Tech sent out an email to see what schools might be willing to schedule home and home in football. Louisiana received one of those emails and immediately called. The deputy AD said "that was sent to you by mistake, we can't gain anything by playing you." David Walker, then the Cajuns' AD, got on the phone with Tech's associate AD Van de Velde and asked if the statement was true. When he was told yes, he responded that UL would honor any existing contracts between the two schools, but they would never schedule Louisiana Tech in any sport until there was a signed agreement for a football home and home with the first game at Cajun Field. (This was in 2007).

Now, Tech is hemorrhaging money in travel costs and ULM stopped playing them as well. They were having trouble making a non conference schedule where they could bus to everything (talking Olympic Sports here). Van de Velde called Walker and they worked out dates for football. Van de Velde stated now the other sports could schedule and Walker cut him off. "Do you think I'm f******g stupid? I said SIGNED CONTRACTS. Van de Velde said he'd sign them. He never did. The boycott continued.

Tech kept UL out of the Independence Bowl in 08. They denied it, but an Independence Bowl committee member confirmed it the following year.

The story of Tech sitting home rather than play ULM in the Independence Bowl is well documented.

Two years later, Tech agreed to the home and home to be played in 2014-2015, right when they joined Conference USA.

Louisiana and Tech play multiple sports non conference. And, yes, their fans are insufferable. At one of the basketball games a few years ago. They listed us as ULL, USL, LAF, and rotated them throughout the game on their scoreboard. Tommy McClelland didn't respond to my email, but they didn't do it again.

Other schools have similar stories. Tech tried to put ULM out of business. Arkansas State has stories as well.

Tech still won't schedule any of us in football. We both had openings last year after COVID affected our schedules and we made the call.

Memories are long here in the Sun Belt as it relates to Tech. But if Tech wanted to come in, the two Louisiana schools would say yes. Tech is part of the UL system with Louisiana and ULM. It would be bad politically to say no. But the Louisiana schools would have to convince others.

Like I said, memories are long here.

Here’s the whole thread, actually one of many. Any doubts, read it.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-929683.html

[CajunT]

Here’s why no to Tech…

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Post: #31RE: Why does seemingly everyone in the Sun Belt West want LA Tech to die in agony?
This will be long, but it will answer your question:

You can ask anyone who was in the SBC administration in the '90s and they will tell you Louisiana Tech was always the most uncooperative folks in the league. They were not in favor of growing the league unless there was something in it for them. And, they did have the "we are better than you" attitude and for the life of me I don't understand it.

When it was time to form the SBC football league, Louisiana Tech and Central Florida were part of the plan. Tech decided they were too good for the Sun Belt and applied for membership in the WAC. UCF said they weren't going without Tech. Wright Waters was still able to put together a football league but it wasn't easy. North Texas, Arkansas State, Louisiana, Idaho, New Mexico State, Middle Tennessee and ULM were the charter members (Idaho and ULM were football only.)

When Tech made their decision, the Women's SBC tournament was pulled out of North Louisiana. Tech cried foul.

Meanwhile, Tech joined the WAC where Rice, SMU, Tulsa and UTEP resided. They believed being associated with those schools would help them get a CUSA invite. (Tech made no bones about the fact CUSA was their desired league. But it backfired in 2004 when those schools left and Louisiana Tech was on an island. Their closest "rival" was New Mexico State, which was farther from Ruston than Pittsburgh.

When Derek Dooley was named athletic director, Tech sent out an email to see what schools might be willing to schedule home and home in football. Louisiana received one of those emails and immediately called. The deputy AD said "that was sent to you by mistake, we can't gain anything by playing you." David Walker, then the Cajuns' AD, got on the phone with Tech's associate AD Van de Velde and asked if the statement was true. When he was told yes, he responded that UL would honor any existing contracts between the two schools, but they would never schedule Louisiana Tech in any sport until there was a signed agreement for a football home and home with the first game at Cajun Field. (This was in 2007).

Now, Tech is hemorrhaging money in travel costs and ULM stopped playing them as well. They were having trouble making a non conference schedule where they could bus to everything (talking Olympic Sports here). Van de Velde called Walker and they worked out dates for football. Van de Velde stated now the other sports could schedule and Walker cut him off. "Do you think I'm f******g stupid? I said SIGNED CONTRACTS. Van de Velde said he'd sign them. He never did. The boycott continued.

Tech kept UL out of the Independence Bowl in 08. They denied it, but an Independence Bowl committee member confirmed it the following year.

The story of Tech sitting home rather than play ULM in the Independence Bowl is well documented.

Two years later, Tech agreed to the home and home to be played in 2014-2015, right when they joined Conference USA.

Louisiana and Tech play multiple sports non conference. And, yes, their fans are insufferable. At one of the basketball games a few years ago. They listed us as ULL, USL, LAF, and rotated them throughout the game on their scoreboard. Tommy McClelland didn't respond to my email, but they didn't do it again.

Other schools have similar stories. Tech tried to put ULM out of business. Arkansas State has stories as well.

Tech still won't schedule any of us in football. We both had openings last year after COVID affected our schedules and we made the call.

Memories are long here in the Sun Belt as it relates to Tech. But if Tech wanted to come in, the two Louisiana schools would say yes. Tech is part of the UL system with Louisiana and ULM. It would be bad politically to say no. But the Louisiana schools would have to convince others.

Like I said, memories are long here.

Absolutely all true! Now which direction should the SBC move? Many of the same things can be said about WKU. It's just not a personal and our history isn't as emotional because Tech is a member of the UL System, and it was and is way more personal.

Here remains the question, will the NCAA approve another FCS jump for another program?
Either way it looks long term that another former CUSA member will be offered, Jax State, Missouri State, Louisiana Tech, WKU, MTU, Sam Houston, UTEP or any other at this time there is no consensus. Everyone one of them will have to pay a $5M exit fee and an entry fee for the SBC. Which one of these programs will do so without having to SBC waive the entry fee or pay the CUSA exit fee for no media share the first few years?

I care very little for the two programs in Texas. We don't need the markets available. No one cares about UTEP and not much more concerning Sam Houston. Or do we sit tight until 2027 wait for several AAC programs to get dumped because they are unable to meet the mandated minimum $10M of revenue yearly for athletes set by the commissioner. Those programs in danger today are North Texas, FIU and UAB. And here we are today!