CMD vs. College Football

[Turbine]

Why is bettors spelled that way? I don't get it.

I play. I'm a player.
I bet. I'm a bettor?

Make it make sense.


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Would you rather be a peddler of new ideas or a proctor guarding old ones?

[CajunFun]

Why is bettors spelled that way? I don't get it.

I play. I'm a player.
I bet. I'm a bettor?

Make it make sense.

While we're at it, why do we pronounce the g twice, 2 different ways, in longevity? Shouldn't it be spelled longgevity?

English is a garbage language.

Oooo... did you really want to get me started?

'-er' and '-or' both work for designating someone who does things: a writer can also be an author, but an evaluator is also an assessor. It's 'bettor' because the alternative is 'better'... and that's a different word.

As for longevity, it can be pronounced either long-jevity or lon-jevity.

Now, on to the big bugbear, why is the 'g' soft? To the Romans, G & C were the same letter (Gaius Caesar, Caius Caesar, same thing). The two started getting softened in the Romance languages. It's a 'chapel' (French, chapelle) instead of capella (which comes from St. Martin's cape... long story). It's château instead of castellum. Etc. A lot of the English words that start with 'ch' come to us as French adulterations of Latin words that start with a 'c.'

In front of 'a' and 'u,' a 'c' or 'g' is hard (Caesar is supposed to be a hard 'c'... compare to Kaiser.) But in front of i's and e's, the g or c is softened: consider 'gigantic,' or 'Genghis.' And 'Genghis' brings up another consideration: In French, Spanish & Portuguese (and in English from the French) an 'h' softens the 'c,' but in Italian and Romanian, it hardens it: in addition to Genghis compare chiaroscuro vs. cioccolato. In French and Spanish, to harden 'c' they add a 'u': French cuisine, Spanish cuenta. To soften a 'c' before an 'a' or 'u,' you follow it with an i or e, but the French can also use a cedille: français.

Finally, the soft 'c' in the western Romance languages is an 's' sound, but in the Eastern, it's a 'ch' sound...

Tired yet?

This is why they shouldn't give me holidays off...

[covcaj]

Oh, I suspect Ben is worth more than a point and a half...

But as someone astutely pointed out, the Vegas spread isn't about the game, it's about the bettors...

Exactly. I know nxt to nothing about betting and have neveer made one, but it seems to me that the bookies want to have as near 50% $ on each team. Is that not correct?

[covcaj]

Oooo... did you really want to get me started?

'-er' and '-or' both work for designating someone who does things: a writer can also be an author, but an evaluator is also an assessor. It's 'bettor' because the alternative is 'better'... and that's a different word.

As for longevity, it can be pronounced either long-jevity or lon-jevity.

Now, on to the big bugbear, why is the 'g' soft? To the Romans, G & C were the same letter (Gaius Caesar, Caius Caesar, same thing). The two started getting softened in the Romance languages. It's a 'chapel' (French, chapelle) instead of capella (which comes from St. Martin's cape... long story). It's chateau instead of castellum. Etc. A lot of the English words that start with 'ch' come to us as French adulterations of Latin words that start with a 'c.'

In front of 'a' and 'u,' a 'c' or 'g' is hard (Caesar is supposed to be a hard 'c'... compare to Kaiser.) But in front of i's and e's, the g or c is softened: consider 'gigantic,' or 'Genghis.' And 'Genghis' brings up another consideration: In French, Spanish & Portuguese (and in English from the French) an 'h' softens the 'c,' but in Italian and Romanian, it hardens it: in addition to Genghis compare chiaroscuro vs. cioccolato. In French and Spanish, to harden 'c' they add a 'u': French cuisine, Spanish cuenta. To soften a 'c' before an 'a' or 'u,' you follow it with an i or e, but the French can also use a cedille: français.

Finally, the soft 'c' in the western Romance languages is an 's' sound, but in the Eastern, it's a 'ch' sound...

Tired yet?

This is why they shouldn't give me holidays off...

When studying Latin for so many years, we learned there were two pronunciations. The Germanic and the Romance. Catholics and Episcopalians use the Romance pronunciations as all you old alter boys ought to know.

[CajunFun]

When studying Latin for so many years, we learned there were two pronunciations. The Germanic and the Romance. Catholics and Episcopalians use the Romance pronunciations as all you old alter boys ought to know.

In fact, my dad was an Episcopal priest.

'Father Abraham,' no less...

[CajunFun]

Exactly. I know nxt to nothing about betting and have neveer made one, but it seems to me that the bookies want to have as near 50% $ on each team. Is that not correct?

Most of the time, probably so. If it's Georgia-'Bama, I would guess they try to divide the money on either side.

But think about how many more TCU/Big 12/P5 people there are betting on the game, compared to the number of UL/SBC/mid-major supporters. If we consider the hubris of the former, it may present Vegas with a tasty opportunity.

So perhaps somewhere in their algorithms, Vegas might have a calculation for palookas. For what looks like a mismatch to the average fan, Vegas might be picking a number that will milk out the most dollars from the arrogantly over-confident...

[Swamp]

Line is actually down to 11.5. guess Vegas knows Ben will play now

They always seem to find out

[Boomer]

Oooo... did you really want to get me started?

'-er' and '-or' both work for designating someone who does things: a writer can also be an author, but an evaluator is also an assessor. It's 'bettor' because the alternative is 'better'... and that's a different word.

As for longevity, it can be pronounced either long-jevity or lon-jevity.

Now, on to the big bugbear, why is the 'g' soft? To the Romans, G & C were the same letter (Gaius Caesar, Caius Caesar, same thing). The two started getting softened in the Romance languages. It's a 'chapel' (French, chapelle) instead of capella (which comes from St. Martin's cape... long story). It's château instead of castellum. Etc. A lot of the English words that start with 'ch' come to us as French adulterations of Latin words that start with a 'c.'

In front of 'a' and 'u,' a 'c' or 'g' is hard (Caesar is supposed to be a hard 'c'... compare to Kaiser.) But in front of i's and e's, the g or c is softened: consider 'gigantic,' or 'Genghis.' And 'Genghis' brings up another consideration: In French, Spanish & Portuguese (and in English from the French) an 'h' softens the 'c,' but in Italian and Romanian, it hardens it: in addition to Genghis compare chiaroscuro vs. cioccolato. In French and Spanish, to harden 'c' they add a 'u': French cuisine, Spanish cuenta. To soften a 'c' before an 'a' or 'u,' you follow it with an i or e, but the French can also use a cedille: français.

Finally, the soft 'c' in the western Romance languages is an 's' sound, but in the Eastern, it's a 'ch' sound...

Tired yet?

This is why they shouldn't give me holidays off...

….I remember my Latin teacher (my mom) a Newcomb alumna and Latin scholar……. sometimes she would slip in the hard letter C pronunciation……. I really ______ed off my Jesuit teacher one day as I stumped him on a Latin idiom my mom had pointed out…… the years are taking away the vocabulary but grammar remains pretty well considering!

[R1Letterman]

Would you rather be a (a) peddler of new ideas or a (b) proctor guarding old ones?

A. Conspiracy theorists
B. Scientific establishment elite

[Swamp]

A. Conspiracy theorists
B. Scientific establishment elite

lol