Champions Square

[lafman1]

So answer this, if we did what Tulane did last year or qualified for the top 12 playoff that is coming up would we then be major in your mind or would we need to move up to a P5 conference to be major? Or is it just the overall gameday atmosphere?

Last year Tulane had everything fall its way to play USC, which had lost its last game to Utah, its second defeat to them.
If the same thing happened to Louisiana, they would still not be a major college in football. Playing a bowl game against a P5 team doesn’t make for a major college football program. Playing G5 opponents all season long, then playing a P5 for a bowl game keeps you at the G5 level. IMO.

[Turbine]

Last year Tulane had everything fall its way to play USC, which had lost its last game to Utah, its second defeat to them.
If the same thing happened to Louisiana, they would still not be a major college in football. Playing a bowl game against a P5 team doesn’t make for a major college football program. Playing G5 opponents all season long, then playing a P5 for a bowl game keeps you at the G5 level. IMO.

Having things "fall your way" is the last criteria you should grasp at.

Except for a few dominate perfect season outliers things falling their way applies to every national champion along the way.

[lafman1]

Having things "fall your way" is the last criteria you should grasp at.

Except for a few dominate perfect season outliers things falling their way applies to every national champion along the way.

I’m not grasping. Teams ranked higher than Tulane lost games while Tulane would win kept them in the rankings.

[Turbine]

I’m not grasping. Teams ranked higher than Tulane lost games while Tulane would win kept them in the rankings.

Wire to wire number ones don't need outside games falling their way.

[lafman1]

Wire to wire number ones don't need outside games falling their way.

That is true. But Tulane needed timely wins paired with losses by teams ranked above them to move up. Matter of a fact, Tulane moved up 4 spots while idle late in the season, then two more spots while the other teams were idle

[Turbine]

That is true. But Tulane needed a timely wins paired with a losses by teams ranked above them to move up. Matter of a fact, Tulane moved up 4 spots while idle late in the season, then two more spots while the other teams were idle

That is not unusual.

[CajunVic]

Ok, let’s figure it out . . . which are playing major college football

LSU v Grambling

LSU v Army

LSU v Ga State

LSU v Auburn

LSU v Miss State

LSU v Arkansas

LSU v Missouri

LSU v aTm

LSU v Florida

LSU v Ole Miss

LSU v Florida St

lafman1, you surely have skirted this . . .

[Cajunsmike]

Last year Tulane had everything fall its way to play USC, which had lost its last game to Utah, its second defeat to them.
If the same thing happened to Louisiana, they would still not be a major college in football. Playing a bowl game against a P5 team doesn’t make for a major college football program. Playing G5 opponents all season long, then playing a P5 for a bowl game keeps you at the G5 level. IMO.

Many of the teams in the P5 are not as good as the top teams in the G5 category. Of course they have the P5 atmosphere. In reality, there are only about 30 teams in the nation that have true big time atmospheres. One of them is 60 miles away from us and that does impact our support. Many casual observers pay zero attention to any of the hundreds of other schools in the nation as they believe if you can't regularly compete for a major bowl game, you are irrelevant. Challenge for us is to convince those casual observers they will be entertained if they come to one of our games. The unfortunate aspect to all this is so many don't realize the huge economic impact and improved quality of life the university brings to the area and much of the state. Were they to understand this, they would do more to support our efforts. That is why Ragin Dave's efforts to highlight area businesses that support the Cajuns should be applauded.

[R1Letterman]

That is true. But Tulane needed timely wins paired with losses by teams ranked above them to move up. Matter of a fact, Tulane moved up 4 spots while idle late in the season, then two more spots while the other teams were idle

Are you saying tulane is not major either?

[R1Letterman]

Many of the teams in the P5 are not as good as the top teams in the G5 category. Of course they have the P5 atmosphere. In reality, there are only about 30 teams in the nation that have true big time atmospheres. One of them is 60 miles away from us and that does impact our support. Many casual observers pay zero attention to any of the hundreds of other schools in the nation as they believe if you can't regularly compete for a major bowl game, you are irrelevant. Challenge for us is to convince those casual observers they will be entertained if they come to one of our games. The unfortunate aspect to all this is so many don't realize the huge economic impact and improved quality of life the university brings to the area and much of the state. Were they to understand this, they would do more to support our efforts. That is why Ragin Dave's efforts to highlight area businesses that support the Cajuns should be applauded.

And their "budgets" are artificially high with nearly 50pct of funds they wouldn't earn on their own.