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  1. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun55 View Post
    So when we had consecutive top 25 seasons what kind of football were we playing?

    Do we have to have a certain number of fans at the games for it to be Major in your opinion? Tell us what the threshold is please.

    IF you want to say the gameday atmosphere is not "Major" of course I would agree with that but at the end of the day that is up to the community not the quality of play on the field. Seems to me if it's not P5, it's not Major in your opinion. So we can only be Major in football if we play in one of the top 5 conferences?
    Yeah. Pretty much.
    Finishing in the top 25 is not the same as consistently playing top 15 teams.
    For example:

    2021
    Week 13. Not ranked
    Week 14. Ranked 24
    Week 15. Ranked 23
    Final ranking. 16

  2. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by lafman1 View Post
    Yeah. Pretty much.
    Finishing in the top 25 is not the same as consistently playing top 15 teams.
    For example:

    2021
    Week 13. Not ranked
    Week 14. Ranked 24
    Week 15. Ranked 23
    Final ranking. 16
    Great point about the rankings in the context of atmosphere.... unfortunately the way it is set up that "casual fan" does not "know cajuns are ranked" until later in the season as you displayed..... how many other skools are able to get increased attendance by being given undeserved higher rankings early on, they get the attendance, atmosphere, then lose.
    One could argue the team should not have been ranked and maybe cajuns should have been ranked higher sooner.

  3. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun55 View Post
    So answer this, if we did what Tulane did last year or qualified for the top 12 playoff that is coming up would we then be major in your mind or would we need to move up to a P5 conference to be major? Or is it just the overall gameday atmosphere?
    Last year Tulane had everything fall its way to play USC, which had lost its last game to Utah, its second defeat to them.
    If the same thing happened to Louisiana, they would still not be a major college in football. Playing a bowl game against a P5 team doesn’t make for a major college football program. Playing G5 opponents all season long, then playing a P5 for a bowl game keeps you at the G5 level. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lafman1 View Post
    Last year Tulane had everything fall its way to play USC, which had lost its last game to Utah, its second defeat to them.
    If the same thing happened to Louisiana, they would still not be a major college in football. Playing a bowl game against a P5 team doesn’t make for a major college football program. Playing G5 opponents all season long, then playing a P5 for a bowl game keeps you at the G5 level. IMO.
    Having things "fall your way" is the last criteria you should grasp at.

    Except for a few dominate perfect season outliers things falling their way applies to every national champion along the way.

  5. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Having things "fall your way" is the last criteria you should grasp at.

    Except for a few dominate perfect season outliers things falling their way applies to every national champion along the way.
    I’m not grasping. Teams ranked higher than Tulane lost games while Tulane would win kept them in the rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lafman1 View Post
    I’m not grasping. Teams ranked higher than Tulane lost games while Tulane would win kept them in the rankings.
    Wire to wire number ones don't need outside games falling their way.

  7. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Wire to wire number ones don't need outside games falling their way.
    That is true. But Tulane needed timely wins paired with losses by teams ranked above them to move up. Matter of a fact, Tulane moved up 4 spots while idle late in the season, then two more spots while the other teams were idle

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    Quote Originally Posted by lafman1 View Post
    That is true. But Tulane needed a timely wins paired with a losses by teams ranked above them to move up. Matter of a fact, Tulane moved up 4 spots while idle late in the season, then two more spots while the other teams were idle
    That is not unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Ok, let’s figure it out . . . which are playing major college football

    LSU v Grambling

    LSU v Army

    LSU v Ga State

    LSU v Auburn

    LSU v Miss State

    LSU v Arkansas

    LSU v Missouri

    LSU v aTm

    LSU v Florida

    LSU v Ole Miss

    LSU v Florida St
    lafman1, you surely have skirted this . . .

  10. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by lafman1 View Post
    Last year Tulane had everything fall its way to play USC, which had lost its last game to Utah, its second defeat to them.
    If the same thing happened to Louisiana, they would still not be a major college in football. Playing a bowl game against a P5 team doesn’t make for a major college football program. Playing G5 opponents all season long, then playing a P5 for a bowl game keeps you at the G5 level. IMO.
    Many of the teams in the P5 are not as good as the top teams in the G5 category. Of course they have the P5 atmosphere. In reality, there are only about 30 teams in the nation that have true big time atmospheres. One of them is 60 miles away from us and that does impact our support. Many casual observers pay zero attention to any of the hundreds of other schools in the nation as they believe if you can't regularly compete for a major bowl game, you are irrelevant. Challenge for us is to convince those casual observers they will be entertained if they come to one of our games. The unfortunate aspect to all this is so many don't realize the huge economic impact and improved quality of life the university brings to the area and much of the state. Were they to understand this, they would do more to support our efforts. That is why Ragin Dave's efforts to highlight area businesses that support the Cajuns should be applauded.

  11. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by lafman1 View Post
    That is true. But Tulane needed timely wins paired with losses by teams ranked above them to move up. Matter of a fact, Tulane moved up 4 spots while idle late in the season, then two more spots while the other teams were idle
    Are you saying tulane is not major either?

  12. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Many of the teams in the P5 are not as good as the top teams in the G5 category. Of course they have the P5 atmosphere. In reality, there are only about 30 teams in the nation that have true big time atmospheres. One of them is 60 miles away from us and that does impact our support. Many casual observers pay zero attention to any of the hundreds of other schools in the nation as they believe if you can't regularly compete for a major bowl game, you are irrelevant. Challenge for us is to convince those casual observers they will be entertained if they come to one of our games. The unfortunate aspect to all this is so many don't realize the huge economic impact and improved quality of life the university brings to the area and much of the state. Were they to understand this, they would do more to support our efforts. That is why Ragin Dave's efforts to highlight area businesses that support the Cajuns should be applauded.
    And their "budgets" are artificially high with nearly 50pct of funds they wouldn't earn on their own.

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