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[Big Buds]

lithium mining is so terrible for the environment but the people over look that. We are probably decades away from a clean feasible battery storage.

I was helping with researching the use of rice Hauls as a anode in lithium battery about 8-9 years ago. Was pretty interesting stuff but showed me how far behind we were in storage capability

Ignorance is bliss here so don’t laugh. But in layman‘s terms can you explain what exactly battery storage entails? Specifically clean feasible battery storage?

[Cajun90]

The problem is that the general populace are clueless about the whole energy cycle and its ramifications based on a total lifecycle approach and risk analysis.

For example....using modern technology there are now zero greenhouse emission natural gas power plants that are capable of operating at efficiency levels that surpass traditonal gas power plants.

There are also nuclear power plant designs that can utilize waste from old reactors and by design are incapable of a meltdown.

The problem is that it is a political no go because of the perception of those who know little or nothing about the issues.

[HelmutVII]

The problem is that the general populace are clueless about the whole energy cycle and its ramifications based on a total lifecycle approach and risk analysis.

For example....using modern technology there are now zero greenhouse emission natural gas power plants that are capable of operating at efficiency levels that surpass traditonal gas power plants.

There are also nuclear power plant designs that can utilize waste from old reactors and by design are incapable of a meltdown.

The problem is that it is a political no go because of the perception of those who know little or nothing about the issues.

Yep.

[Turbine]

Ignorance is bliss here so don’t laugh. But in layman‘s terms can you explain what exactly battery storage entails? Specifically clean feasible battery storage?

On a personal level a Tesla Powerwall (not cheap) https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

On a large,scale
https://www.energy-storage.news/news...ovember%202017.

[Scott Malkinson]

Ignorance is bliss here so don’t laugh. But in layman‘s terms can you explain what exactly battery storage entails? Specifically clean feasible battery storage?

Lithium batteries are the best storage we have and it stripped mined in China with tons of run off into drinking water. They have a shelf life and are messy disposal .

[axg8750]

Nuclear power is the obvious future to this worlds power needs to anyone who is educated on the subject.

JMO

[Scott Malkinson]

Nuclear power is the obvious future to this worlds power needs to anyone who is educated on the subject.

JMO

Fusion is the dream .. from what I hear we have a couple of small scale reactors working

[Cajun90]

Lithium batteries are the best storage we have and it stripped mined in China with tons of run off into drinking water. They have a shelf life and are messy disposal .

Look into Aluminum Ion batteries. Currently being commercialized with massive advantages over lithium based units. No exotic or toxic substances. Higher energy storage and charge times up to sixty times faster.

[Cajunrunner]

The problem is that the general populace are clueless about the whole energy cycle and its ramifications based on a total lifecycle approach and risk analysis.

For example....using modern technology there are now zero greenhouse emission natural gas power plants that are capable of operating at efficiency levels that surpass traditonal gas power plants.

There are also nuclear power plant designs that can utilize waste from old reactors and by design are incapable of a meltdown.

The problem is that it is a political no go because of the perception of those who know little or nothing about the issues.

I am of the opinion that technology in the energy industry (both traditional and "alternative/renewable) will eventually be able to catch up to the fairy dream ideas, and do so in an economically viable manner. However, that is still developing. You can't snap your fingers and all the "dirty" petrochemical plants on the Gulf Coast instantly become "clean".

And you can't protest new ones being constructed like the Bucket Brigade here in Louisiana, because there is demand for the products created by those facilities, and they provide jobs and income base. But those same "dirty" companies many like to rant and rave about are also the very same segments of industry actually DOING something about emissions. Instead of holding protests in the front yards of Congressmen (like a group did recently in Houston, demanding Joe Biden devise their version of the peace corps so they can get paid to just protest), many, many companies in the energy/petrochemical industry are investing heavily in finding ways to curb and capture emissions in an economically viable manner that allows for those same high demand products to continue being produced and those important jobs to continue providing income for families and a tax base for local and state governments.

I am of the "we need all forms of energy available" mindset. The worldwide energy needs and demand from fossil fuel byproducts will continue to increase globally, even if the rate of the increase in demand slows. Population will continue to grow, so it needs to be all hands on deck for all energy sources.

[ZoomZoom]

Nuclear power is the obvious future to this worlds power needs to anyone who is educated on the subject.

JMO

Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, Rocky Flats. Yeah, it’s the way to go. Actually you can buy land north of Denver now, but it comes with a hold harmless clause. The I70 project has also had some issues.

Yes our technology is better, but stupidly still exists.