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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns80 View Post
    You are really grasping at straws now. No way he should ever get another extension unless he makes the NCAA tournament.
    I said he would NOT get an extension with one good year. Up to Dr. Maggard if he gets one after two good years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Greg Heiar said he wants the job when it opens and could be in the tournament in 2 years
    That would be a hell of a hire. He can recruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    You really shouldn't count players like Caldwell as potential saviors. I think I warned you about Johnson. He's turned out to be very average.

    Anyway I'm still standing on my initial theory. Maggard wouldn't hire Bob applying with his tenure and resume. We sure as hell should never rehire our current mistake with extensions.
    Cadwell (thanks for spelling correction) won't be a savior. He will be just a steady player with high basketball IQ (he is an outstanding student and may graduate early). He will almost always make the correct play. He is someone who will average about 8 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 assists. He will also be a more than solid defensive player. That won't turn a program around on it's own but can help right the ship if other guys improve. I mentioned Wilson and Julien earlier because they have shown flashes of good play this year. I did not say we will have a successful season next year. No way will I go that far out on a limb due to what has occurred this year. I said IF we have a good year, those three guys will be largely responsible for it. Again, IF that happens there is reason to believe the following season will be successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Cadwell (thanks for spelling correction) won't be a savior. He will be just a steady player with high basketball IQ (he is an outstanding student and may graduate early). He will almost make the correct play. He is someone who will average about 8 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 assists. He will also be a more than solid defensive player. That won't turn a program around on it's own but can help right the ship if other guys improve. I mentioned Wilson and Julien earlier because they have shown flashes of good play this year. I did not say we will have a successful season next year. No way will I go that far out on a limb due to what has occurred this year. I said IF we have a good year, those three guys will be largely responsible for it. Again, IF that happens there is reason to believe the following season will be successful.
    Marlin has been given way too much time to "turn it around"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Now we're reduced to hoping and praying we have a good season 2 years from now IF everything in the UL universe goes right.
    I think your reaching to get that take from his post. In my opinion Mike is saying that if there is success next season the cupboard would not be bare and we would not be looking at a complete rebuild heading into the 21-22 season with the way the roster is currently set. As of now there would be 4 seniors on next years team so a solid recruiting class would be needed. There is one commit from the class of 21 as of now in Joe Charles from Carencro. Of course speculation about 2 years from now is well.... a lot of speculation, many things could change in the meantime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    I think your reaching to get that take from his post. In my opinion Mike is saying that if there is success next season the cupboard would not be bare and we would not be looking at a complete rebuild heading into the 21-22 season with the way the roster is currently set. As of now there would be 4 seniors on next years team so a solid recruiting class would be needed. There is one commit from the class of 21 as of now in Joe Charles from Carencro. Of course speculation about 2 years from now is well.... a lot of speculation, many things could change in the meantime.
    Thanks for clarifying my point. My original thought was to respond to someone who said we could improve next year but would drop off the following year. One more issue to clarify. I did say I believe we will be in top three next year if we are healthy. I also said I won’t go out on a limb to say we will be successful next year. The way to reconcile those two apparent contradictory statements is to look at the health issues. No way to have confidence we won’t have health issues when three guys are coming off knee surgery and two others have had chronic foot issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    I think your reaching to get that take from his post. In my opinion Mike is saying that if there is success next season the cupboard would not be bare and we would not be looking at a complete rebuild heading into the 21-22 season with the way the roster is currently set. As of now there would be 4 seniors on next years team so a solid recruiting class would be needed. There is one commit from the class of 21 as of now in Joe Charles from Carencro. Of course speculation about 2 years from now is well.... a lot of speculation, many things could change in the meantime.
    I agree with Zephyr, lol at the fact that we are talking about IF we can be good in 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    So I was thinking about something for the last 12 years I had previously been a Sales Manager of multiple Salespeople. And one of our ways of doing business, was to constantly evaluate the bottom % of our team, to see if they needed to be replaced (obviously new salespeople get a grace period).

    So if we used this same theory with an Athletic Director at UL. UL has 11 coaches listed below:

    WE WILL CALL THESE GUYS THE UNTOUCHABLES--EITHER IN GRACE PERIOD OR CONSISTENT WINNERS
    Deggs--Baseball--In grace period, since this is his first year (off limits)
    Napier--Football--Winning consistently (off limits)
    Key--Soccer--In grace period and winning (off limits)
    Glasco--Softball--Winning, still technically in grace period (off limits)

    WE WILL CALL THESE GUYS THE SAFE GUYS--WINNING ENOUGH OR IMPROVING
    Jeffrey--Men's Tennis--Has a recent conference championship and regular winning seasons
    Badeaux--T/F and X-Country--Seems to have the teams on an upward trajectory
    Vallejos--Women's Tennis--Has been bad forever, but seems to be improving
    Broadhead--Women's BB--I give him a pass last year because of the circumstances, this year is a big year to decide if he stays on this list or falls to the next one.
    Mazeitis-Fontenot--Volleyball--Has had some recent success, but we need to keep an eye on results

    WATCH LIST--These coaches should be reviewed at the end of the season as they should be considered for being let go.
    Marlin--Basketball--I really like Marlin, but we continue to under achieve. My personal opinion is to give him an extra year due to the circumstances this year and if we are not in the top 2 or 3 in the conference next year he should be gone, but that is an AD decision.
    Sliman--Golf--I think if Golf does not contend for a conference championship this year he should be gone, we have not been competitive for a long time.

    So using this strategy, I would each year look at my bottom tow or three coaches as I see them, and rank them 1-11. If you were to replace Marlin and Sliman this year, then next year, the bottom three could be Mateives-Fontenot, Vallejos, Broadhead or Jeffery and make a decision on these 4 on who is in the bottom, and so on and so on. This way you are always looking to make your bottom of your staff stronger. This is not to say, just because they are the bottom 2 or 3 that you would release them, it is just to say that every year you should be considering the bottom 2 or 3 members of your team to be replaced. In theory this is a great way to look at your staff, it is not always the only way to evaluate, but it gives you perspective on what you would like to want your coaches to achieve. If the top guy on your list is a Glasco or Napier, then the bottom coaches should be shooting for the same type of success. Meaning that battling for conference championship (top 2 or 3 consistently) is the bottom of your top tier guys. The top should be battling for National Championships.

    Granted you may have to replace the guys at the top tier guys due to them leaving, illness or even in Coach Robe's situation death.
    Well that’s an interesting way of looking at things. Of course none are actually in competition with the others. Their sport circumstances, or history if you will has a great deal to do with their success.

    Of course if you’re taking over a failed program you should get a decent grace period. Brodhead was in that circumstance when he took over. He’s way beyond the grace period. If you taking over a very successful program pretty much near it’s zenith your name is Glasco, but under very steep circumstances and departures of some of your best talent. He coulda gotten a grace period. Instead he performed at a very high level. Our soccer coach took over a disaster yet set historic highs.

    Bobby Big Fish took over a program in disarray but not devoid of talent. Maybe his first year was his best. I wouldn’t keep him under any circumstance in the future short of regular season championship, tournament championship, and a very competitive game in the NCAA. Goodness gracious he’s will be starting his second decade of mediocrity in the 20/21 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns80 View Post
    I agree with Zephyr, lol at the fact that we are talking about IF we can be good in 2 years.
    If, if, if! If we had a good coach it wouldn’t take a decade to know, and if he were that man someone would have picked him away from early on.

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    I'd take Brad Boyd right now, with no college coaching experience, over Marlin right now.


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