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CajunT
It's clear the money is not there, and Texas St. doesn't move the needle right now.
Yes sir. And a tv contract with CBSSN. That should be the first non starter.
Re: Read Between The Lines
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Originally Posted by
CajunT
It's clear the money is not there, and Texas St. doesn't move the needle right now.
Disagree.
The MWC doesn't move the needle for Texas State. They see what's going on. The MWC is headed for the floor once UNLV and Air Force bolt, and they will.
The fact that they are publicly courting Tarleton State speaks volumes. They are also courting Big Sky fcs schools right now behind the scenes. They are desperate. They are headed for CUSA, bottom dwellar status.
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ZoomZoom
Yes sir. And a tv contract with CBSSN. That should be the first non starter.
No weekday games?
No 11am kickoff?
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CajunNation
No weekday games?
No 11am kickoff?
And nobody watching. I, along with a vast majority of CFB fans, have never watched a game on CBSSN.
Re: Read Between The Lines
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CajunNation
Disagree.
The MWC doesn't move the needle for Texas State. They see what's going on. The MWC is headed for the floor once UNLV and Air Force bolt, and they will.
The fact that they are publicly courting Tarleton State speaks volumes. They are also courting Big Sky fcs schools right now behind the scenes. They are desperate. They are headed for CUSA, bottom dwellar status.
Agree with you on this. The MWC absolutely invited them. And, yes, the MWC is scrambling now.
And, while you may be correct about UNLV and AFA, it won't happen soon. They're going to receive 55% of conference revenue. That might not be enough to keep them down the road, but it is for now.
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CajunNation
Disagree.
The MWC doesn't move the needle for Texas State. They see what's going on. The MWC is headed for the floor once UNLV and Air Force bolt, and they will.
The fact that they are publicly courting Tarleton State speaks volumes. They are also courting Big Sky fcs schools right now behind the scenes. They are desperate. They are headed for CUSA, bottom dwellar status.
Now we are playing semantics. Either way they had to walk their interest back publicly. As Jay stated the legacy programs are receiving more money banked rolled by exit fees. Any new member will not receive the same media share. Texas State did the math and realized travel cost alone would not make the move feasible. Either way conference realignment below the P5 at this time is more about regional realignment for the near future.
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JayWalker
Agree with you on this. The MWC absolutely invited them. And, yes, the MWC is scrambling now.
And, while you may be correct about UNLV and AFA, it won't happen soon. They're going to receive 55% of conference revenue. That might not be enough to keep them down the road, but it is for now.
And where do UNLV and AFA go Jay, the PAC 12? They have no media deal in writing from ESPN. They are offering numbers simply on projection. This is why Memphis and Tulane were quick to pull their names out.
And while I get the attraction to remain with rivalries in the PAC 12, when it comes down to it the PAC 12, ACC and the BIG 12 they are simply reshuffling chairs on the deck of the Titanic. This is why Clemson, Florida State and Miami are suing the ACC and begging to get out the Conference. Both Steve Hale and Chuck Ninas said this would eventually happen almost 12 years ago. There will be another reclassification and some current members of the P5 will find themselves left behind. I don't know when this will happen, it could be a decade or less, after much litigation.
Dr. Maggard believes that eventually we will find ourselves in a slightly better position in a new regional or super G5 conference with members that will not make the cut. I agree with that view, and everything today is simply reshuffling the chairs on the deck of the Titanic below the SEC and Big 10.
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CajunT
And where do UNLV and AFA go Jay, the PAC 12? . . . . .
Yes. The AAC would take them as well. They wouldn't risk being shut out just to make some money now. They have a longer view point than that.
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Dr. Maggard believes that eventually we will find ourselves in a slightly better position in a new regional or super G5 conference with members that will not make the cut. I agree with that view, and everything today is simply reshuffling the chairs on the deck of the Titanic below the SEC and Big 10.
I agree, and we need to make sure we are in the highest rated group of schools possible in OUR REGION when that happens.
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CajunNation
Yes. The AAC would take them as well. They wouldn't risk being shut out just to make some money now. They have a longer view point than that.
I agree, and we need to make sure we are in the highest rated group of schools possible in OUR REGION when that happens.
Their longer view ends up in the same destination in the long run, working from larger budgets for slightly more money and minus exit fees and travel cost. It won't be $7M per team. All current members are not receiving that media share today.
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CajunT
Dr. Maggard believes that eventually we will find ourselves in a slightly better position in a new regional or super G5 conference with members that will not make the cut. I agree with that view, and everything today is simply reshuffling the chairs on the deck of the Titanic below the SEC and Big 10.
This is interesting to hear, because this is my gut feeling as well.
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The PAC and MWC are looking for ways to patch the gaping holes in their ships and they're desperate. The patchwork isn't pretty and the folks at ESPN won't be impressed. The universities doing their homework realize that the big money isn't there anymore. The Big-12, PAC, and MWC are holding on to conference names that don't have the same value they once did. I know some want to see UL make a move to a better conference, the key here is making a move that is truly financially rewarding, right now there is a lot of fool's gold out there.
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ZoomZoom
And nobody watching. I, along with a vast majority of CFB fans, have never watched a game on CBSSN.
I’ll be honest, it’s a fantastic production. Lightyears ahead of ESPN+. But I still prefer the mass convenience of ESPN+.
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Big Buds
I’ll be honest, it’s a fantastic production. Lightyears ahead of ESPN+. But I still prefer the mass convenience of ESPN+.
CBSSN is akin to the proverbial if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?
Agree with you, with convenience comes viewership.
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ZoomZoom
CBSSN is akin to the proverbial if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?
You've just described ESPN+ and ESPNU.
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CajunNation
You've just described ESPN+ and ESPNU.
Somewhat. I have ESPNU on cable, “+” is nice to have, Louisiana isn’t the only thing I watch on the platform.
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I know it won’t happen; but the idea of adding like a Memphis or TCU or Tulsa as a regular is a delight to the imagination