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Future Conference Breakdown (What we know now)
Obviously, this is still a moving target, but here is, if nothing changes as of right now, what conferences will look like in 2025. Tons will still change between now and then, but I figured if anyone was unsure of what it was going to look like as of right now.
This is football only:
BIG 12 (13 Teams)
BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, OSU, TCU, Texas Tech, WVU and Colorado.
SEC (16 Teams)
UGA, Tenn, SC, Kentucky, Florida, Mizzou, Vandy, Oklahoma, Texas, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas and MSU.
PAC 12 (9 Teams)
Utah, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, Arizona, Cal, Stanford and Arizona State
ACC (14 Teams)
BC, Clemson, Duke, FSU, GT, Louisville, Miami, UNC, NC State, Pitt, Syracuse, UVA, VT and Wake
BIG 10 (16 Teams)
Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, MSU, Minnesota, Nebraska, NW, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin, USC and UCLA
Independents (4 Teams) *Notre Dame
ND*, UCONN, UMASS, Army
SUNBELT (14 Teams)
UL, Texas State, USA, Troy, USM, Arkansas State, ULM, Coastal, App, Marshall, JMU, ODU, Georgia State and Georgia Southern
AAC (14 Teams)
Charlotte, FAU, UNT, Rice, UAB, UTSA, ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, USF, Temple, Tulane and Tulsa
CUSA (10 Teams)
Liberty, NMSU, Jacksonville State, Sam Houston, WKU, MTSU, UTEP, FIU, La Tech and Kennesaw State
MAC (12 Teams)
Akron, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Kent State, Miami (Oh), Ohio, Ball State, CMU, EMU, WMU, NIU and Toledo
MWC (12 Teams)
Boise, AF, Wyoming, Utah State, Colorado State, New Mexico, Fresno, SJSU, SDSU, UNLV, Hawaii and Nevada
This is based on 2025 season; I am positive it won't look like this in 2025. The question is what it will look like then.
I did this because I was so confused, and this gave me a chance to see what I know as of now.
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Any chance, ACC could muscle ND into conference compliance and pickup UCONN?
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What about ARMY to the B12?
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I thought major independent wasn’t supposed to be a long term thing, just a parking spot while looking for a conference home?
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Grantvb
I thought major independent wasn’t supposed to be a long term thing, just a parking spot while looking for a conference home?
Your thoughts are correct.
Temporary.
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Grantvb
What about ARMY to the B12?
No way.
Arizona, ASU and Utah will likely be added to the Big12 this week. Word is the PAC TV deal will only pay $20 Mill and it’s mostly streaming.
From there, Washington and Organ will go to the B1G.
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Big Buds
No way.
Arizona, ASU and Utah will likely be added to the Big12 this week. Word is the PAC TV deal will only pay $20 Mill and it’s mostly streaming.
From there, Washington and Organ will go to the B1G.
Bud, who do they back fill with? Hawaii? Wyoming?
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Grantvb
Bud, who do they back fill with? Hawaii? Wyoming?
If they even backfill at all. Possibly AAU schools such as Rice, Tulsa, SDSU, Tulane and Memphis. Or, some type of MW/PAC merger. Heck, the PAC is on life support.
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Dangit. I thought B12 was on life support.
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Big Buds
If they even backfill at all. Possibly AAU schools such as Rice, Tulsa, SDSU, Tulane and Memphis. Or, some type of MW/PAC merger. Heck, the PAC is on life support.
Memphis is not an AAU school. Just made R1. I think the same for Tulsa and SDSU.
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I see that the Geographic footprint goes to hell.
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Grantvb
Dangit. I thought B12 was on life support.
No, the Big 12 got saved by taking the best available in BYU, Cincy, Houston and UCF as well as Colorado. That in turn put the PAC on life support because they were already losing USC and UCLA and now Colorado and in turn Utah, Arizona and Arizona State are the next dominos to fall.
They will attempt to save themselves and I think SDSU will be first on the list, the question is where do they go from there, do they look at the rest of the MWC teams in that market (SJSU, Boise, Fresno) or do they go in a different direction with SMU and Colorado State out of the AAC or do they do a mix of both.
My personal opinion will be a mix of both. I think Colorado State, SDSU, SMU and Boise could be on the top of their list, but don't be surprised if UNLV is there as well and not because of athletic prowess, but more because the market might be something they want.
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If only Arizona goes to Big 12, Pac # can carry on with Oregon/Washington at higher payout. At any rate, remnants of Pac# will invite best of MWC. The MWC might be CUSA'd. Realignment is a cut throat business.
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We don’t know what the tv deal is, but it may not be set in concrete. The tv deal might be dependent upon who’s still in. Oregon ad said yesterday that to them it’s not about money but who you associate with. They’re clearly preparing an exit for Big 10. Arizona board having an unplanned meeting.
All this suggests PAC12 is not going to survive. Stanford and CAL independent.
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It’s no coincidence the SBC East got three close proximity teams when the move to 14 happened. 2025 will be interesting.
I look for the remnants of the MWC and C-USA join forces, maybe with a few members of the WAC.
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HoustonCajun
Memphis is not an AAU school. Just made R1. I think the same for Tulsa and SDSU.
South Florida just made AAU. The PAC remnants will either keep it local or copy what the Big 12 did last year and go big with UTSA, SMU, Memphis, Tulane and USF.
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CajunEXPRESS
We don’t know what the tv deal is, but it may not be set in concrete. The tv deal might be dependent upon who’s still in. Oregon ad said yesterday that to them it’s not about money but who you associate with. They’re clearly preparing an exit for Big 10. Arizona board having an unplanned meeting.
All this suggests PAC12 is not going to survive. Stanford and CAL independent.
PAC remnants will be Cal, Stanford, Oregon State and Washington State. Everybody else is leaving. That is still enough to keep the PAC going. They will immediately take the best available out west like SDSU, UNLV, Boise. Then figure out if they want to remain a regional league or try to go large to gobble markets and keep hope alive they can remain a P5.
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How does this affect Louisiana? Where do we see ourselves in 5 years? Hell maybe even 2 years?
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CajunNation
PAC remnants will be Cal, Stanford, Oregon State and Washington State. Everybody else is leaving. That is still enough to keep the PAC going. They will immediately take the best available out west like SDSU, UNLV, Boise. Then figure out if they want to remain a regional league or try to go large to gobble markets and keep hope alive they can remain a P5.
PAC?? is done. The media deal’s top end is based on Apple subscriptions. Anyone here going to sign up for a PAC?? game?
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...streaming-deal
“ a potential, primarily subscription-based Apple streaming deal for its television contract that expires after this school year, according to multiple sources”.
“ the deal, sources said, would incrementally improve and potentially be competitive with its peers in the Big 12 and ACC down the road, provided certain subscription numbers are met”.
Fox, ESPN and the big 3 passed or didn’t bid enough.
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It's easy to see what happens next. What's a little more difficult to see is what happens in 2031.
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MountainDew
How does this affect Louisiana? Where do we see ourselves in 5 years? Hell maybe even 2 years?
Just get some popcorn and a cold beverage and sit back. The SBC East has been dictating the additions. They’re a nice little marketable entity all unto themselves. Don’t think they won’t leverage that in some way in the future, be it to dump Texas State or any program west of the Mississippi, to even breaking away. Most can’t get that SoCon Joneses out their system.
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ZoomZoom
PAC?? is done. The media deal’s top end is based on Apple subscriptions. Anyone here going to sign up for a PAC?? game?
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...streaming-deal
“ a potential, primarily subscription-based Apple streaming deal for its television contract that expires after this school year, according to multiple sources”.
“ the deal, sources said, would incrementally improve and potentially be competitive with its peers in the Big 12 and ACC down the road, provided certain subscription numbers are met”.
Fox, ESPN and the big 3 passed or didn’t bid enough.
There will still be a PAC when the dust settles. It might be somewhere between the P4 and G5, but there will be a conference and there will be a TV package. It will just be a lot smaller than the P4.
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MountainDew
How does this affect Louisiana? Where do we see ourselves in 5 years? Hell maybe even 2 years?
2 years?
Still in the SBC, minus Texas State, plus UAB.
5 years?
Still in the SBC, plus ECU and FAU.
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CajunNation
There will still be a PAC when the dust settles. It might be somewhere between the P4 and G5, but there will be a conference and there will be a TV package. It will just be a lot smaller than the P4.
.......the Pac will try North and South.....North has Wash and Wash ST, Oreg and Oreg St, Stanford, Cal, and not sure---jSouth would be Ariz and Ariz St, UTSA, SmU, Tulane, and not sure......please fill in the rest for me!!!
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CajunNation
2 years?
Still in the SBC, minus Texas State, plus UAB.
5 years?
Still in the SBC, plus ECU and FAU.
Texas State isn't going anywhere. The conference won't throw them out, and they have nowhere better to go. The SBC may add UTSA or UAB to the Western Division and Either ECU or FAU in the East, assuming they add anyone. I doubt UAB because that would be 3 Alabama schools. Most likely scenario is that the SBC stands pat.
