Illegal PITCH??

Ok, first of all I didnt see the game and I struggled with the live stats. Can someone please explain to me what exactly an illeagal pitch is? Is that similar to a balk in baseball? I've never heard of this call before. I find it strange that there were... what two called on the last out of the game? How many outs did we have to record in the bottom 7th? Sounds fishy to me.

Anyways I'm thirlled to have the girls advance to the super regional and its sweeter bc it was against LSU in thier yard. Good job ladies and good luck in Houston!

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Originally Posted by CajunStros

_ Ok, first of all I didnt see the game and I struggled with the live stats. Can someone please explain to me what exactly an illeagal pitch is? Is that similar to a balk in baseball? I've never heard of this call before. I find it strange that there were... what two called on the last out of the game? How many outs did we have to record in the bottom 7th? Sounds fishy to me.

Anyways I'm thirlled to have the girls advance to the super regional and its sweeter bc it was against LSU in thier yard. Good job ladies and good luck in Houston! _

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When the 1st one was called, I thought that the batter might have called time and stepped out. But it was called a ball not a no-pitch. I agree, there was something fishy going on.

Either way, LSU geauxs down AGAIN! See the Cougars in Houston next weekend.

Basically, the foot must stay in contact with the rubber until the ball has left the hand. There are many variations on what the umpire can call an illegal pitch and I'm not sure which one was being called on Ashley. for further info, check this out...

http://www.pitchsoftball.com/Page3.html

your push-off foot must remain in contact with the pitching rubber in the circle until after the ball is released. if you lift your foot up off the rubber before you release the pitch, it's considered an illegal pitch. the worst part of it is, if it's called, any movement of the base runners remains. ex. runners on 1st & 2nd, batter hits the pitch to the infielder who throws the batter out at first, and runners move up to 2nd & 3rd. umpire calls illegal pitch. batter returns to the batter's box. instead of an out, it's a called ball, and runners get to stay at 2nd & 3rd. they do not return to their original bases. it didn't hurt us today in that situation, but it could have turned out to be a killer. they called the same thing on ash yesterday. mostly from the umpire tidwell who was working the infield yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Cajun Saint

_ your push-off foot must remain in contact with the pitching rubber in the circle until after the ball is released. if you lift your foot up off the rubber before you release the pitch, it's considered an illegal pitch. the worst part of it is, if it's called, any movement of the base runners remains. ex. runners on 1st & 2nd, batter hits the pitch to the infielder who throws the batter out at first, and runners move up to 2nd & 3rd. umpire calls illegal pitch. batter returns to the batter's box. instead of an out, it's a called ball, and runners get to stay at 2nd & 3rd. they do not return to their original bases. it didn't hurt us today in that situation, but it could have turned out to be a killer. they called the same thing on ash yesterday. mostly from the umpire tidwell who was working the infield yesterday. _

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It would be interesting to know exactly what the illegality was, and to find out what conference Tidwell umpires in. ..O...~...O..

She is a SEC Official and called the same garbage against Arkansas in April.


FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. – The University of Arkansas softball team fell to No. 15 LSU 4-0 and 8-6 in an eight-inning battle that came down to the wire. The Lady Razorbacks are now 33-24 overall and 6-18 in the Southeastern Conference, while the Tigers move to 37-14 and 14-10 in league play.
Game two moved into extra innings in the bottom of the seventh. Arkansas entered the half inning up 5-4. Rachel Mitchell walked and moved to third on a single through the right side by Killian Roessner. On the first pitch to Erika Sluss, third-base umpire Jana Tidwell called an illegal pitch which advanced both runners and allowed Mitchell to cross the plate and tie the game at five apiece.

Some of you are being WAY too technical on this "illegal pitch" thing. An illegal pitch is simply a pitch thrown by an opposing pitcher that, if not for the illegal pitch call by a homey umpire trying his best to help his purple team survive, would end in a loss for the purple team.

Questions?

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Originally Posted by CajunRed

Some of you are being WAY too technical on this "illegal pitch" thing. An illegal pitch is simply a pitch thrown by an opposing pitcher that, if not for the illegal pitch call by a homey umpire trying his best to help his purple team survive, would end in a loss for the purple team.

Questions?

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WOW!!! Now that you've explained it in laymans terms.....I'm good.

Thanks,

Z

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Originally Posted by CajunDawgPound

She is a SEC Official and called the same garbage against Arkansas in April.


FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. – The University of Arkansas softball team fell to No. 15 LSU 4-0 and 8-6 in an eight-inning battle that came down to the wire. The Lady Razorbacks are now 33-24 overall and 6-18 in the Southeastern Conference, while the Tigers move to 37-14 and 14-10 in league play.
Game two moved into extra innings in the bottom of the seventh. Arkansas entered the half inning up 5-4. Rachel Mitchell walked and moved to third on a single through the right side by Killian Roessner. On the first pitch to Erika Sluss, third-base umpire Jana Tidwell called an illegal pitch which advanced both runners and allowed Mitchell to cross the plate and tie the game at five apiece.

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Yeah, I posted that on the game thread. I've heard she was also involved in an illegal pitch RBI in a game LSU played against Tennessee.

I'm sorry, call me a homer, but when you get to the NCAA regionals, you shouldn't have umpires there that have called your regular-season games.

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Originally Posted by Zeebart21

_ WOW!!! Now that you've explained it in laymans terms.....I'm good.

Thanks,

Z _

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DOUBLE WOW!! Sounds like that comes right out of the handbook for umpires calling lsu games - home or away.:D:D:D ..O...~...O...

On this website, http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/m...ch?forum=10114, in a thread tabbed "Baton Rouge Regional", a poster had stated even before the regional started that we needed to make sure all of our pitches were "ultra-legal". He said that Arkansas and Tennessee were victims when playing against LSU. Scroll down to "ProudUncle".

Thread:
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/p...ost?id=2709707

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Originally Posted by CajunRed

_ Some of you are being WAY too technical on this "illegal pitch" thing. An illegal pitch is simply a pitch thrown by an opposing pitcher that, if not for the illegal pitch call by a homey umpire trying his best to help his purple team survive, would end in a loss for the purple team.

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touche, cajun red, touche!

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Originally Posted by Bunch24

_ Yeah, I posted that on the game thread. I've heard she was also involved in an illegal pitch RBI in a game LSU played against Tennessee.

I'm sorry, call me a homer, but when you get to the NCAA regionals, you shouldn't have umpires there that have called your regular-season games. _

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In the Arkansas fiasco, her call was the difference in the game. I'll bet this ump doesn't call the SEC next year.

She'll call. And she'll be in Baton Rouge. If she had called something that would have killed a legit SEC contender, then maybe she's out. However we saw today she is a party liner so she will still have a job.

It's called a "TIDWELL"

She will move to Baton Rouge and when the umpires meet for preseason clinics someone will take the test for her. It has been done before in BR.

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Originally Posted by CajunDawgPound

I'll bet this ump doesn't call the SEC next year. _

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If yg and lsua&mc@br have anything to say about it, I'll bet you $50 right now SHE DOES!!! :hot::hot::hot:

Hmmm

Look at the thread from TV3. The 2 pitches that Hofer is shown to throw on the video, isn't she "illegal"? She looked to be almost 12 inches off the rubber by the time she released the ball, yet no call. Hmmmmmmmm.......:rolleyes: All well. All is good anyway. We are going to the SUPER!!!!!!!!!..O..

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Originally Posted by Crowley Cajun

_ Look at the thread from TV3. The 2 pitches that Hofer is shown to throw on the video, isn't she "illegal"? She looked to be almost 12 inches off the rubber by the time she released the ball, yet no call. Hmmmmmmmm.......:rolleyes: All well. All is good anyway. We are going to the SUPER!!!!!!!!!..O.. _

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Holy crap. I thought you might have been exaggerrating a little bit, but from that angle, it looked pretty blatant. I don't know the rule very well, but as I know it, both of those would have been illegal pitches.

Here is the kicker the home plate umpire(girl) call 3 of 4 games in regional for lsu it was not her turn to call the plate it was supposed to be the black guy behind plate the girl at third and James at first and Mr Illegel pitch was supposed to be off that game be it was the exact same positions as the win for lsu against East Carolina now thats cheating

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Originally Posted by rhineaux

_ Holy crap. I thought you might have been exaggerrating a little bit, but from that angle, it looked pretty blatant. I don't know the rule very well, but as I know it, both of those would have been illegal pitches. _

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I saw the same thing! Can't get more blatantly biased than that. It makes our victories ever sweeter.

A list of Umpire crews for super regionals.

Any familiar names? Anybody to watch out for?


Congrats to the following that are assigned to Super Regionals - again a large number of familiar names that are here every year:

Crew Chiefs: Steve Arnold, Smokey Edds, Bart Hadley, John Kurnat, Jeff Sloan, Bryan Smith, Scott Thomas, Sally Walker

Umpires: Mike Bartling, Glenda Bates, Susie Benzel, Kevin Davis, Linda Hoover, Keith Kearney, Katrina Kershaw, Geri Magwire, Steve McCown, Willie Newman, Ed Rado, Chad Stears, John Stoodley, Jana Tidwell, Tom Topping, Kevin Wallace

Alternates: Diane Beasley, John Bennett, Vic Cena, Mike D'Ercole, Pete Grebner, Patti Gunst, Terry Hix, Tim Kasate, James Martarona, Bill Masters, Michael Mazur, Dan Ringsby, Terri Rosenwald, Rodney Roth, Bobby Shelton, Traci Stoelting, Doug Zimmerman

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Originally Posted by HelmutVII

A list of Umpire crews for super regionals.

Any familiar names? Anybody to watch out for?


Congrats to the following that are assigned to Super Regionals - again a large number of familiar names that are here every year:

Crew Chiefs: Steve Arnold, Smokey Edds, Bart Hadley, John Kurnat, Jeff Sloan, Bryan Smith, Scott Thomas, Sally Walker

Umpires: Mike Bartling, Glenda Bates, Susie Benzel, Kevin Davis, Linda Hoover, Keith Kearney, Katrina Kershaw, Geri Magwire, Steve McCown, Willie Newman, Ed Rado, Chad Stears, John Stoodley, Jana Tidwell, Tom Topping, Kevin Wallace

Alternates: Diane Beasley, John Bennett, Vic Cena, Mike D'Ercole, Pete Grebner, Patti Gunst, Terry Hix, Tim Kasate, James Martarona, Bill Masters, Michael Mazur, Dan Ringsby, Terri Rosenwald, Rodney Roth, Bobby Shelton, Traci Stoelting, Doug Zimmerman

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Theres our dude, right there.

uuuggghhh....

Z

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Originally Posted by Zeebart21

_ Theres our dude, right there.

uuuggghhh....

Z _

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Will Tidwell be in Houston?