Vanderbilt's high tuition boosts their on paper budget.Quote:
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Vanderbilt's high tuition boosts their on paper budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee
So Cal, Oregon State, Stanford and Washington state is all that’s left….
Do they keep watered down PAC 12 and call up MWC teams or do they join MWC.
I think Stanford could go independent instead of joining MWC
Now just seeing what happens in ACC…
Actually So Cal isn’t part of whatever the PAC is. If the two Arizona announce leaving the conference falls to 5. Stanford isn’t getting in a conference with Boise, and probably CAL Berkeley as well. The PAC is only waiting for someone to pull the plug.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunJack55
Yes I was talking Cal BerkeleyQuote:
Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS
The 2 Arizona schools and Utah are gone
The movement always flows upward with realignment. I think the remnants of the PAC 12 will take who they want from the Mountain West and the AAC (if they can stomach the travel costs.) I could see them adding some mix of Boise St., SDSU, Colorado St., UNLV, SMU and Memphis. That would solidify their position as the #5 conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunJack55
The Mountain West would then look to poach C-USA. NMSU, UTEP, and maybe even La Tech.
After the divorce from the G5 programs, it will then be the time to throw out the low hanging fruit (trash), like Vandy, Missouri, Indiana, Rutgers, etc. Never will be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee
Okay on Cal, I just didn’t know that Utah, and Arizona schools were also gone. Then that’s not enough to maintain the conference. I’m not sure the tv deal will work if you bring in multiple G5 teams. Pull plug.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunJack55
Saw an article saying Cal has the highest athletic debt in the country at one time. Didn't verify it anywhere else.
https://twitter.com/novy_williams/st...579153920?s=20
https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...00-page-7.html
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Jason Scheer
@jasonscheer
Hearing Oregon State and San Diego State have had very preliminary talks with the Big 12 over the last 48 hours. Key word is preliminary and it would be at discounted rates.
8:39 PM · Aug 6, 2023 635.2K Views
The BIG 12 is going for California. They are gonna use these 2 as lure for Stanford and Cal.
I think it's the proper move for everyone involved.
Are we back?? We have a lot to talk about lol….
Man - the Pac 12 went to being the Pac 1.2 overnight.
I guess Washington State is going to be finding out what going down the conference ladder is going to be like, because about the only thing in their future is joining the MWC.
Cal & Stanford won't go for calling up Northern Arizona, UTEP, and Boise State - and I don't think any of the WCC schools has football?
*Edit* In addition, do some conferences start dumping some of their weight to better accomodate the money pie splits? I mean....Easy come, easy go.
If I am Central Florida or Rutgers, I smile big and hope there are enough mirrors in the room to see when someone is walking up behind me with a prison shiv.
If all that is left in the PAC is Oregon State and Washington State and they invite MWC teams to keep the conference alive, does the PAC remain a P5 conference and do all those MWC teams suddenly become P5 schools? Likely schools the PAC could pick up are Colorado State, SDSU, UNLV, Utah State, Air Force, SJSU, Fresno State, Boise State and Wyoming from the MWC, and SMU, UTSA, Rice, Tulane and Memphis from the AAC. Would they keep P5 status?Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
If the PAC wants to pick up more schools around Texas like Texas State, N. Texas and even Tulsa, would they look a little farther East to UL perhaps instead of Texas State? Tulane is a more attractive addition than UL, given their academic status and New Orleans market. Could there be a Louisiana package of Tulane and UL? Although not likely, if it remains a P5 conference and UL is invited, would we not accept? Is UL better aligned with the East or West schools for recruiting and conference affiliation? Would gaining P5 status override any other considerations?
The Big12 will scoop up the remaining 4.
It sounds like the Big12 might actually hold off and take some ACC brands once a few schools leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun4life
Listening to the College sports channel on the sat radio helps me understand where this is headed.
NIL will eventually lead to the football players being employees. The end result of realignment is for the "conferences" to maximize revenue. This revenue will be needed to eventually pay those employees. We are currently in the asset acquisition phase. Next will be the consolidation phase which will be those "conferences" removing dead weight like Illinois and Mississippi State.
In time, an inflection point will come where this model will only be workable for those "superconferences" and they will leave the umbrella of the NCAA either for football only or every sport sponsored at those "schools".
Everybody else will remain with the NCAA and the student athlete model.
This will all eventually come crumbling down in spectacular fashion. If the American people wanted a lesser version of the NFL, there would be a long history of one already. We've allowed the lunatics of places like tiger droppings to take the wheel. They are headed for the cliff.
I still think the B12 needs to offload WVU. Poor regional footprint.
Whenever FSU and Clemson leave, the ACC will probably replace with WVU and UCF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grantvb
Arena football, XFL, USFL, UFL, WLAF all crashed or create no money.
I hope so!Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
SMH. Illinois is not getting kick out of B1G. They bring the Chicago market. 12 million people and the 3rd largest market in the country. B1G went after Maryland for the DC market, Oregon for the Portland market and Washington for Seattle market. All smaller than Chicago. Same reason they won't dump Rutgers even if they are bottom feeders. That NYC market is what sells advertisers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
None of the Legacy B1G school are getting kick out. I said it before that B1G is more than just a collegiate sports league. It's also a research collective. They pool their research and all schools receive over a billion dollars each. Not 50 million like their TV contract disperses. Not a hundred million like most of the Athletics departments run on, but over $1 billion each to actually play school. Only Nebraska was in danger for not pulling their weight but if they can regain AAU status they will be forgiven.
Can the PAC remain a P5 conference with only 4 P5 members even if it adds all other G5 members? This would be the reverse of the Big 12 adding only 4 G5 schools. In that scenario, the PAC would be comprised mostly of MWC or AAC G5 schools. If the PAC no longer exists and merges with either the MWC or AAC, is either conference still a G5 or a P5 simply because there are 4 P5 schools in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel
None of those have huge alumni bases, or any fan base at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grantvb
The latest....
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/s...ad-974783.htmlQuote:
Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
ACC considering adding Cal, Stanford & SMU or just Cal & Stanford, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. 1st report by @RossDellenger. SMU has a $10 million exit fee to leave AAC w/less than 27 months notice so that number could double. In May, ACC source told @ActionNetworkHQ league had no interest in expanding. “We already have too many mouths to feed,” source said then. Today? “Obviously a lot has happened in the past few months”
4:09 PM · Aug 8, 2023·32.4K Views
ACC already has 14 members plus 5 game football schedule agreements with Notre Dame for football and full membership in Olympic sports. I guess SMU could tie in with Notre Dame in the future if it ever happens. Otherwise I’d think Stanford and CAL. Still a lot of Olympic sports going to the West Coast.
SMU will find it’s way into the P5. They are historically a name program.