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Grantvb
I'm bummed about this.
Way to look at it negatively. How about a positive post...If student fees were not counted as outside revenue (since it isn't from the outside) we are easily first
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MelRock
Yeah, but we would have another 50 million as a P6 school.
Bump. They always forget that. To compare deduct their conference money for a true comparison
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UL_Cajuns
Most politicians are lawyers. Easiest profession to make lots of money at the expense of others misfortunes. That’s why no one trusts them.
Most will burn in hell, but hey that’s why we need a law school at UL. We need that dirty money sent our way and we can spend it good yea!
I agree with all of this!!!!
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CajunsHat
Did you read my entire post?
I said to not add $1000-$2000 per semester, I said to add $250…as $250 would NOT be a shock as it would be if $1-2k was added 🙄
Isn't the question the allocation of what the fees go to, not adding additional fees?
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RougaWhite&Blue
Isn't the question the allocation of what the fees go to, not adding additional fees?
Since the State opted to make student vote on fees instead of adding academic related fees TO TUITION, fee allocation is theoretically locked in.
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Turbine
Since the State opted to make student vote on fees instead of adding academic related fees TO TUITION, fee allocation is theoretically locked in.
But aren't all the pieces of that student fee voted on individually? Does anyone have a list:
Isnt it 20 for SGA, 15 for union, 25 for bourgeois hall, 10 for ID, 20 for xyz academic society, 5 for Verm paper, etc etc etc?
Couldn't athletics take the place of an existing fee, i.e. vote that out
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Turbine
Since the State opted to make student vote on fees instead of adding academic related fees TO TUITION, fee allocation is theoretically locked in.
Can we get a little more help on this concept . . .
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SlickRick
Student fees...
Most students believe they are overcharged and don't want to pay another penny. UNO just voted down a student fee to (re)start a football program. They are dead last on this list.
USM just posted that they have 2000 members in their athletic foundation again this year. Perhaps we should take a look at small donations.
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Lexhead
Perhaps we should take a look at small donations.
100%
Napier wanted his students to become members of the RCAF.
Small donations are the gateway to success.
Starting off with large donations as an immediate goal are a surefire roadblock to growing membership.
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Turbine
100%
Napier wanted his students to become members of the RCAF.
Small donations are the gateway to success.
And some people complained about it. Yet, even with all the winning, that was the most important generational lesson he tried give this university.
Small donors grow into long term donors, which some grow into whale donors.
And yet, here we are with <2k RCAF members.
Several here started out decades ago with TDP and the Ragin Cajun Club. Who will replace us?
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Lexhead
Most students believe they are overcharged and don't want to pay another penny. UNO just voted down a student fee to (re)start a football program. They are dead last on this list.
USM just posted that they have 2000 members in their athletic foundation again this year. Perhaps we should take a look at small donations.
And as the state of Louisiana continues to slash funding for higher education LA schools have no choice but to raise tuition and fees unfortunately. The cost of college in louisiana is one of, if not the fastest rising in the nation.
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RougaWhite&Blue
But aren't all the pieces of that student fee voted on individually? Does anyone have a list:
Isnt it 20 for SGA, 15 for union, 25 for bourgeois hall, 10 for ID, 20 for xyz academic society, 5 for Verm paper, etc etc etc?
Couldn't athletics take the place of an existing fee, i.e. vote that out
I believe not all fees are voted on by students:
Colleges and universities assess several different types of fees to students. Some are fees assessed by higher education boards that are authorized by state law. These fees can only be used for the specific purpose they were approved for.
Another type of fee are assessed by the individual institution. The university's leadership can propose fee to the management board which will have the ultimate say on the amount and purpose of the fee.
The third type of fee is assessed by the student body, usually through a vote. These fees are usually proposed by a student government association.
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CajunJack55
And as the state of Louisiana continues to slash funding for higher education LA schools have no choice but to raise tuition and fees unfortunately. The cost of college in louisiana is one of, if not the fastest rising in the nation.
source please . . .
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RougaWhite&Blue
Isn't the question the allocation of what the fees go to, not adding additional fees?
Your fees are listed every semester, I paid them for both of my kids. Many of those fees are allocated to pay down debt for such projects as the new student union, parking garages, indoor practice facility at one time. Most of those fees serve the majority of students. I didn't like paying them either, but it has become the norm at universities across the country.
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CajunJack55
And as the state of Louisiana continues to slash funding for higher education LA schools have no choice but to raise tuition and fees unfortunately. The cost of college in louisiana is one of, if not the fastest rising in the nation.
This is true. That is because historically Louisiana college tuitions have been absurdly low. Until quite recently a student from Texas, could attend UL and pay out of state tuition for less than it would cost to attend Texas A&M as an instate student.
Edit: Quite recently is a relative term. I am 75.. to me that could mean 30 years ago. lol
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CajunJack55
What par doesn't mention is Louisiana is the poorest state in the US outside of Mississippi. the state of Louisiana has over 54 percent of it's population on some type of federal and state subsidy and the state has a negative population growth. And let's not forget the negative business climate that has been created in this state over the past 8 years.
If higher education wants more money, it needs to be part of the solution. Spending growth needs to be capped annually, more partnership with private industry like what's being done with the primate center and pharmaceutical companies. And they need to help cultivate business growth in this state instead of participating in barriers that make it more difficult in attract new business to relocate in Louisiana. You can't keep biting the hand that feeds tax revenue and expect the same people at the top of the food chain to continually pay more taxes.
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CajunT
What par doesn't mention is Louisiana is the poorest state in the US outside of Mississippi. the state of Louisiana has over 54 percent of it's population on some type of federal and state subsidy and the state has a negative population growth. And let's not forget the negative business climate that has been created in this state over the past 8 years.
If higher education wants more money, it needs to be part of the solution. Spending growth needs to be capped annually, more partnership with private industry like what's being done with the primate center and pharmaceutical companies. And they need to help cultivate business growth in this state instead of participating in barriers that make it more difficult in attract new business to relocate in Louisiana. You can't keep biting the hand that feeds tax revenue and expect the same people at the top of the food chain to continually pay more taxes.
...you mean we CAN'T just Get Gordon to get this done !?!?
The state is run by these _ ___
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Does anyone have the breakdown by sport? Or know where I might find them. I am not opposed to a little work. I am just curious where the ones with the budget have their money invested.
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MelRock
Does anyone have the breakdown by sport? Or know where I might find them. I am not opposed to a little work. I am just curious where the ones with the budget have their money invested.
Is this what you are looking for? Has pretty good breakdown.
https://www.sportico.com/business/co...te-1234646029/
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CajunJack55
Yeah, I think I can make some assumptions with these numbers. Unfortunately, the breakdown is only for three sports. Thank you very much for posting.
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The free sports (don't know why) are probably off the table.
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Using the information on their site, here is the percentage of money spent on football, basketball, and women's basketball.
Total Operating Expenses 2021-23
App State $38,565,701
Georgia State $39,913,963
James Madison $57,800,447
Louisiana, $38,364,254
Louisiana, Monroe $20,527,424
South Alabama $33,001,239
Texas State $37,853,450
Troy $33,355,524
Operating Expenses percentage spent on FB, MBB, WBB
App State 40.45%
Georgia State 35.24%
James Madison 30.31%
Louisiana, 48.66%
Louisiana, Monroe 51.76%
South Alabama 52.12%
Texas State 36.59%
Troy 44.54%
I believe Jay posted that we are either second or third in money spent on baseball. This is kind of what I was thinking. We spent more money of our budget on the more prominent sports. I wonder what other sports James Madison and Texas State spend their money on?
Football Total Operating Expenses
App State $11,995,591
Georgia State $9,235,632
James Madison $11,050,605
Louisiana, $14,016,582
Louisiana, Monroe $7,383,496
South Alabama $13,046,697
Texas State $10,261,457
Troy $10,648,072
Men's Basketball Total Operating Expenses
App State $2,030,131
Georgia State $2,960,164
James Madison $3,544,046
Louisiana, $2,900,954
Louisiana, Monroe $1,568,647
South Alabama $2,667,675
Texas State $2,055,229
Troy $2,233,728
Women's Basketball Total Operating Expenses
App State $1,572,505
Georgia State $1,870,578
James Madison $2,927,407
Louisiana $1,751,536
Louisiana, Monroe $1,673,019
South Alabama $1,487,440
Texas State $1,532,213
Troy $1,975,102
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Turbine
The free sports (don't know why) are probably off the table.
Wonder how that experiment went.