BB G1 Final: Louisiana 11, Coastal 9

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

Somebody posted here pretty much the entire rotation used in the 2 midweek games sometime during the Tuesday game, I believe.

So, if Coach Deggs gave the entire pitching staff a couple days notice of the specific rotation he planned on using this week and weekend, are you now on board?

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Did he let them know or are you posing a hypothetical? We’ve had this problem for 3 years. No one ever knows how they’ll be used from week to week. We had a kid (who left the program) throw a bullpen because he hadn’t seen time on the mound in 2 weeks, had no communication that he would be throwing and it was it regular throw day. Finds out they want to start him in a midweek game a couple hours later. That’s the kind of foolishness that’s gone on here with pitching.

I’m still curious if Cooper found out minutes before the game that he’d be starting. I was told that happened and I’m sure you would know best.

Coastal Notes prior to their WF midweek contest this past Tuesday.

1. In the first meeting between these two teams, the Chanticleers defeated then-No. 2/5 Wake Forest 13-11 on March 7 in Conway, S.C. It marked the Chants' first win over a top-25 opponent this season.

2. This season, the Chants have lived by the home run ball. When Coastal's offense hits two or more home runs in a game, the Chanticleers are 20-3 overall. If the Chants hit just one home run, they are 4-5, and if they fail to hit one out of the ballpark, they are just 2-4 on the year.

3. Entering the midweek contest at nationally-ranked Wake Forest, Coastal Carolina has the third-toughest schedule in all of NCAA Division I baseball (NCAA.org). The Chants' schedule is behind only Kentucky and Georgia out of the Southeastern Conference (SEC).

4. Coastal's pitching staff has four pitchers that have recorded 40 strikeouts or more this season. Reliever Darin Horn leads the team with 63 punch-outs, while weekend starter Jacob Morrison is a close second with 61 strikeouts. Fellow starter Matthew Potok has fanned 44 hitters, while closer Teddy Sharkey has struck out 43 batters on the year.

5. The Chants, which rank fifth in the nation in runs scored with 385 on the year, have five players that have crossed the plate 40 times or more in Payton Eeles (47), Graham Brown (47), Derek Bender (41), Chad Born (41), and Nick Lucky (40).

6. Six was the magic number for the Chants in 2022, as Coastal was 33-4-1 overall when scoring six runs or more in a game. Th is season, the Chants are 23-3 when scoring six runs or more for the game and just 3-9 when scoring less than six runs.

7. The Chanticleers will be looking for their seventh win over a top-25 nationally-ranked
opponent this season on Tuesday night at Wake Forest. Coastal is 6-3 versus top-25 teams this season, including a 13-11 win over then-No. 2/5 Wake Forest on March 7 in Conway, S.C.

8. Entering this season, the Chanticleers have posted the eighth-most wins in all of NCAA Division 1 baseball since 2001 with 885 wins. The Chants trail just Florida State (974), LSU (935), North Carolina (931), Texas (909), South Carolina (908), Florida (893), and Vanderbilt (889).

9. The Coastal offense has been on fire all season long and ranks in the top 15 of seven NCAA offensive statistical categories, including scoring (second - 10.1), hit-by-pitch (fourth - 89), runs (fifth - 385), slugging percentage (fifth - .562), on-base percentage (seventh - .431), doubles (ninth - 98), batting average (11th - .321), hits (12th - 434), and home runs (15th - 73).

10. The Chanticleers have won 12 straight Sun Belt Conference series dating back to last season. Since being swept by the Georgia State Panthers at home last year on April 8-10, 2022, CCU has won each of its last 12 Sun Belt series, going 29-7 overall in those contests.

Tonight is a major game for Cajun Baseball. Show up early. Get lathered up and GET F'n LOUD.

Let's take their work and flush it. Destroy their concentration. Timely schit talking.

LFG.

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

I respect your optimism. Playing Devil’s advocate though, if half of the committee is ineffective, by Sunday, we will have burned through a large majority of experienced arms and if we’re good enough to hit our way to a rubber match Sunday, what do you do then?

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It’s easy to play devil’s advocate with half the facts.

I have given my take.

Even with that take, we have to play the games and by far, the committee concept has the best opportunity to have a substantial amount of our pitching rotation available on Sunday.

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Originally Posted by CajunStros

Pitchers are by far the biggest creatures of habit on a baseball team. What Deggs is doing is grasping at straws. While it MIGHT work short term, it is not sustainable. It is a gimmick, much like how our offense is run sometimes.

I’ll say it until the cows come home, ST is not a pitching coach.

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It ain’t Seth, brother. Trust me on this.

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

It’s easy to play devil’s advocate with half the facts.

I have given my take.

Even with that take, we have to play the games and by far, the committee concept has the best opportunity to have a substantial amount of our pitching rotation available on Sunday.

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But you’re leaving out an important part: Who is our “rotation?”

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

It ain’t Seth, brother. Trust me on this.

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Man, if this is the case, then I’m worried we are in worse shape than I thought.

The lack of pitching development the last few years has been very concerning.

My sources (which are several) indicated that the whole pitching staff knew the plans for this week and the intended rotations well in advance.

That is one of the reasons that I sorta had confidence in the potential of that system for this week. Since we are expected to fall flat this weekend under ordinary and expected circumstances, why not try something different?

Keep in mind that the games will dictate how much the coaching staff can stick through the intended path. So far, so good.

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

My sources (which are several) indicated that the whole pitching staff knew the plans for this week and the intended rotations well in advance.

That is one of the reasons that I sorta had confidence in the potential of that system for this week. Since we are expected to fall flat this weekend under ordinary and expected circumstances, why not try something different?

Keep in mind that the games will dictate how much the coaching staff can stick through the intended path. So far, so good.

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Well if the boys are saying they knew their roles in advance, that’s a huge step in the right direction.

I still don’t like the plan. BUT, I do think we win the series this weekend. We own those clowns.

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

But you’re leaving out an important part: Who is our “rotation?”

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It’s probably not good to give the Chickens our entire game plan, especially since it is designed around variations and the unknown.

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

It’s probably not good to give the Chickens our entire game plan, especially since it is designed around variations and the unknown.

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So when most of D1 baseball posts their starting rotation, or keeps the same rotation in place throughout the course of the season, that’s “giving up the gameplan?”

There’s no way you really believe that. And of course we don’t know. No one knows. The pitchers don’t even know. Lol

Hell, you were asking who was going to start Tuesday, so I’m pretty sure you didn’t even know. And that’s saying something, considering you would have had to drive in to see the game!

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

So when most of D1 baseball posts their starting rotation, or keeps the same rotation in place throughout the course of the season, that’s “giving up the gameplan?”

There’s no way you really believe that. And of course we don’t know. No one knows. The pitchers don’t even know. Lol

Hell, you were asking who was going to start Tuesday, so I’m pretty sure you didn’t even know. And that’s saying something, considering you would have had to drive in to see the game!

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Just because I was asking does not mean I did not know.

As for teams posting their rotations, we are seeing more and more TBA for the second and third games. And tell me if I’m wrong, but the only information provided by posting the three game starting rotation is who will make the first pitch of the game, if they stick to it?

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

It ain’t Seth, brother. Trust me on this.

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This concerns me, because listening/reading quotes from Deggs sounds like the staff is 100% in ST's hands. There was a quote that, and I'm recalling from memory, indicated Deggs was happy that ST left a certain pitcher in in a situation. Who's running the staff?!

My main request of pitchers this weekend.

Avoid walks, and hitting batters, then things may go well for you.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

My main request of pitchers this weekend.

Avoid walks, and hitting batters, then things may go well for you.

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That is a solid request for any pitcher that may take the mound, from time to time, through the entire weekend.

More of this is beneficial to a good ole fashion Chicken Chokin this weekend.

Please Lord do not let us start hitting batters. #1 killer of this weeknd

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

Just because I was asking does not mean I did not know.

As for teams posting their rotations, we are seeing more and more TBA for the second and third games. And tell me if I’m wrong, but the only information provided by posting the three game starting rotation is who will make the first pitch of the game, if they stick to it?

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I gave my opinion on who would pitch and what the result would be. I’m batting .500 in two games.

As for posting about you: I just thought we were discussing strategy and pitching? Are we not?

You are not 500 because you said that Rawls, Nezuh, McGehee and Christie would not pitch.

May we all enjoy the games this weekend and may the Cajuns be successful against the Chickens.

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

You are not 500 because you said that Rawls, Nezuh, McGehee and Christie would not pitch.

May we all enjoy the games this weekend and may the Cajuns be successful against the Chickens.

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I said it was my opinion that those pitchers would not pitch. It’s a pretty reasonable opinion considering how ridiculous most people view this entire situation.

Everything since has been about baseball. I’ve been nothing but cordial.

See you at the park.

Unrelated to pitching…just saw a Carolina bus around Cajun field. Did Coastal bus here???

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Originally Posted by LouisianaB

Unrelated to pitching…just saw a Carolina bus around Cajun field. Did Coastal bus here???

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Yikes if that happened. Might be an advantage for us.

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Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryFan

My sources (which are several) indicated that the whole pitching staff knew the plans for this week and the intended rotations well in advance.

That is one of the reasons that I sorta had confidence in the potential of that system for this week. Since we are expected to fall flat this weekend under ordinary and expected circumstances, why not try something different?

Keep in mind that the games will dictate how much the coaching staff can stick through the intended path. So far, so good.

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Yall might want to listen to this person and not talked down to them.

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Originally Posted by Dad04

Not sure that is even possible. The one thing supporting it is the success of the Rays in MLB. They can't afford starters.

I am confused at the state of college pitching. MLB cut back on the draft, forcing more players to college. Yet, ERA's seem like they are higher than ever. Coastal is 6.47. We lead the league at 4.72 after years and years under 4. Every Sun Belt team sucks at pitching. We just suck a little less.

Sun Belt Average Team ERA

2017: 4.81
2018: 4.83
2019: 5.39
2020: 4.03 (COVID Season)
2021: 4.92
2022: 5.34
2023: 6.03

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I can't remember what I was listening to the other day but they had a good guess. Most D1 head coaches are after velocity. Many of the guys that can "pitch" are being overlooked and ending up at JUCOs or DII.

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Originally Posted by cjr3888

I can't remember what I was listening to the other day but they had a good guess. Most D1 head coaches are after velocity. Many of the guys that can "pitch" are being overlooked and ending up at JUCOs or DII.

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Yeah, let's go after a guy who throws 100 but hits batters and has no control in his pitches over someone like Gunner Leger who might throw only 89-90 but can locate his pitch to the inch and become an All-American.

Sometimes, coaches outcoach themselves.

I have a nephew that pitched for one of the top high schools in Texas and was good the only offer he got was a D2 school. He decided not to play I feel coaches missed the boat on him. But I am biased. He is enjoying the college life at the University of Arkansas.

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Originally Posted by LouisianaB

Unrelated to pitching…just saw a Carolina bus around Cajun field. Did Coastal bus here???

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I hope they are charged $15 to park if they don’t have tickets to the baseball game.