Poll - What percentage of Football support is acceptable for Basketball

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

Hence the reason your handle is Bandwagon King. You don't believe teams deserve support unless they're good enough for your liking. Probably the reason you only made 2 basketball games this season.

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I only made two games this year because I happened to be ill, working, or out on some other business. Besides, I have no allegiances that require me to show any loyalty to this or any other program. The support I have given to this school in the past is based soley on my own desire to pull for this school as I see fit. I owe you zero explanations & furthermore, it's idiots like yourself who drive most of the support that the school never sees away. People such as yourself & select others on here prove your undeniable stupidity every day without regard to season, by attemptIng to belittle people who do attend games, so what do you think someone new to town or who has not attended any in a certain amount of time are going to think when they read how you as a self described faithful follower, are going to act toward them?

Do you think the attitude you have is in any way conducive to growing the support of the program? Because I will obviously state for the record that it is not.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

Do you think the attitude you have is in any way conducive to growing the support of the program? Because I will obviously state for the record that it is not.

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Actually, my attitude, his attitude or anyone else's attitude isn't hurting anything. Look at the increase in attendance for football and last years basketball.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

I only made two games this year because I happened to be ill, working, or out on some other business. Besides, I have no allegiances that require me to show any loyalty to this or any other program. The support I have given to this school in the past is based soley on my own desire to pull for this school as I see fit. I owe you zero explanations & furthermore, it's idiots like yourself who drive most of the support that the school never sees away. People such as yourself & select others on here prove your undeniable stupidity every day without regard to season, by attemptIng to belittle people who do attend games, so what do you think someone new to town or who has not attended any in a certain amount of time are going to think when they read how you as a self described faithful follower, are going to act toward them?

Do you think the attitude you have is in any way conducive to growing the support of the program? Because I will obviously state for the record that it is not.

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I assume you feel that way about every other college, including LSU. Spend some time on Tigerdroppings and see if the insults don't fly.

BTW, I npriced in an earlier post that you stated that you had just gotten season tickets for the first time last year. Did someone grease the bandwagon handles so you couldn't climb on board before then? Or is your selective loyalty superior to everyone else's, well, because it's yours?

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

BTW, I npriced in an earlier post that you stated that you had just gotten season tickets for the first time last year. Did someone grease the bandwagon handles so you couldn't climb on board before then? Or is your selective loyalty superior to everyone else's, well, because it's yours?

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Not sure if this is for me. I've had 8 season tickets since 2004.

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Originally Posted by duggie85

Actually, my attitude, his attitude or anyone else's attitude isn't hurting anything. Look at the increase in attendance for football and last years basketball.

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I wasn't addressing you specifically, but then again, I guess I was. I stand corrected. You are right sir. If the basketball team ever produces a consistent quality product again, it won't matter how many jerks like yourself attempt to drive folks off. They will show enough intelligence not to pay ANY attention to your sniveling.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

I only made two games this year because I happened to be ill, working, or out on some other business. Besides, I have no allegiances that require me to show any loyalty to this or any other program. The support I have given to this school in the past is based soley on my own desire to pull for this school as I see fit. I owe you zero explanations & furthermore, it's idiots like yourself who drive most of the support that the school never sees away. People such as yourself & select others on here prove your undeniable stupidity every day without regard to season, by attemptIng to belittle people who do attend games, so what do you think someone new to town or who has not attended any in a certain amount of time are going to think when they read how you as a self described faithful follower, are going to act toward them?

Do you think the attitude you have is in any way conducive to growing the support of the program? Because I will obviously state for the record that it is not.

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You calling me an idiot and stupid? That's laughable. Don't get mad because I'm calling you out for what you really are. Hell, you gave yourself the title. I'm of the belief that my money and bringing people to UL events that haven't been before does a lot more for growing the program than ____ing you off does to hurt it.
I noticed about 2 or 3 weeks ago that you started commenting on some of the basketball threads as if you were some self-appointed expert that saw every game this team played this year, when in actuality you only saw two. Anyone who saw a decent amount of games this season knows that the ULM game was by most accounts an aberration. Yet you come on here saying things like Elfrid Payton shouldn't be at the point and should be on the bench, that EP should be a forward, and other misinformed nonsense. But yet when he comes to the first game of the conference tournament and almost puts up a triple-double you're nowhere to be found. Nothing to be heard about how you were wrong and congratulating him on his play. Nothing.
Here's the deal. You're a football fan primarily. You go to a lot of the spring practices that are open and as many games as you can, such as ASU last year. We get it. Stick to that. When a question is posed about a sport that you don't frequent, why don't you try not putting your ramblings out there. Or at least try and make a few games before you start arguments with others who actually watch those teams play.

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

Ultimately no matter what some of you think it should be, it is about fun for most people. When your team runs a boring ineffetive offense a non press defense, and in addition is not winning then do not be surprised if they are not having fun, and no fun no butts, no dollars.

For some like me it is about loyalty which is why I went to the games I did this season, it was usually a tedious night, but I still made the 260 mile round trips.

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You are 100% correct on this CE. And there is no amount of brow beating which can change the facts. I personally attempted to get three different self described Cajin old school fans to attend the senior night game with us, & they each came up with multiple reasons they just couldn't make it. I know those people very well & can guarantee, they have done their share of team following on the radio just as I have. If this team had twenty or more wins under their belts, any chance at all to win in the CT, or a star player who was making some hay, they would have been there also.

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Originally Posted by charliek

Not sure if this is for me. I've had 8 season tickets since 2004.

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hey thats a good point. At what point are you no longer a bandwagon fan? I've had season tickets since 2008.. I've been a basketball season ticket holder since 2010 and a charter RCAF member.

At what point is someone no longer a bandwagon fan? Am I still a bandwagon fan?

Turb... i was thinking about your question about support and I am not sure how to answer that. You see...I hear the team is led by a new 17+1 year old who can't handle the team...is prone to turnovers...and is being used out of position. I don't know if they are worth supporting.

Oh, wait...this just in. That playing-out-of-position, turnover-prone 17+1 year old finished the other night close to a triple double. Maybe I'll decide to buy tickets and make some games.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

If this team had twenty or more wins under their belts, any chance at all to win in the CT, or a star player who was making some hay, they would have been there also.

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In case you didn't see the game on Sunday, the Cajuns lost on a 3 in the final 10 seconds to UNT which went on lose in the championship game by 4. The Sun Belt tournament is generally pretty wide open. To suggest that this team didn't have any chance to win it is very indicative of how much you followed basketball this season. Don't let the performance from the last of the two games you saw fool you.

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Originally Posted by duggie85

That's impressive.

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What's impressive (and tedious) is that he lives only 10 miles away from the Cajundome... but drives around in a circle to log 260 miles!

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Originally Posted by Just1More

What's impressive (and tedious) is that he lives only 10 miles away from the Cajundome... but drives around in a circle to log 260 miles!

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Hahahaha

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

You calling me an idiot and stupid? That's laughable. Don't get mad because I'm calling you out for what you really are. Hell, you gave yourself the title. I'm of the belief that my money and bringing people to UL events that haven't been before does a lot more for growing the program than ____ing you off does to hurt it.
I noticed about 2 or 3 weeks ago that you started commenting on some of the basketball threads as if you were some self-appointed expert that saw every game this team played this year, when in actuality you only saw two. Anyone who saw a decent amount of games this season knows that the ULM game was by most accounts an aberration. Yet you come on here saying things like Elfrid Payton shouldn't be at the point and should be on the bench, that EP should be a forward, and other misinformed nonsense. But yet when he comes to the first game of the conference tournament and almost puts up a triple-double you're nowhere to be found. Nothing to be heard about how you were wrong and congratulating him on his play. Nothing.
Here's the deal. You're a football fan primarily. You go to a lot of the spring practices that are open and as many games as you can, such as ASU last year. We get it. Stick to that. When a question is posed about a sport that you don't frequent, why don't you try not putting your ramblings out there. Or at least try and make a few games before you start arguments with others who actually watch those teams play.

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To quote Quigly,"i said I didn't have much use for pistols. I didn't say I didn't know how to use one." for you to say that I'm misinformed about this BB team is just as misinformed as you assume me to be. I have listened to several Cajuns games this year, as well as reading about the team, as well as attending the games I did attend this year & last. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am. That does not mean you have the market cornered on the evaluation process.

If you wish to disagree on philosophy or the reasons you think super kid is gonna be a superstar or why you think the coach is a freaking genius, then have at it. Just don,t get your panties knotted up because the jury is still out on this coach & his program for Most fans or potential supporters. To further edify you, as if that were possIble, I was a BB season ticket holder long before I ever held football season tickets.

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

In case you didn't see the game on Sunday, the Cajuns lost on a 3 in the final 10 seconds to UNT which went on lose in the championship game by 4. The Sun Belt tournament is generally pretty wide open. To suggest that this team didn't have any chance to win it is very indicative of how much you followed basketball this season. Don't let the performance from the last of the two games you saw fool you.

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You know what this tells me? It screams they were one & done. For the second year in a row To a tteam which didn't win the tourney. And this is supposed to impress me how?

The Marlin supporters on the team should have rallied to his cause. Are they good enough to win even this conference as down as it is at the present time? Will Marlin get guys he can work with & have consistency? Will his program suffer another midseason or late season melt down?

No one knows these things except one guy. And he ain't tellin. So quit acting like anyone who has legitimate questione about the future of the program is just a disloyal hack. You may be right & you may end up regretting you ever went out of your way to attack other people In defense of this guy.

While I do disagree with BWK about Elfrid Peyton and a lot of other stuff. I agree with him that it is fair to question where the program is.

I still believe that Marlin will get it done, but I don't know for certain. We haven't won a Sunbelt tourney game in 6 years. It's fair to ask some questions.

I also agree that until we start reeling off wins, crowds won't come to the dome. People in Lafayette expect a high level of basketball. Rightly or wrongly, I believe most people in Lafayette supported basketball far more than football.

We have to get better quickly. I believe Marlin is a good X & O's coach. However, the best play in the world drawn for a guy who can't shoot will lose to a terrible play drawn up for Michael Jordan.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

You know what this tells me? It screams they were one & done. For the second year in a row To a tteam which didn't win the tourney. And this is supposed to impress me how?

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You aren't getting it. Of the 10 games in the conference tournament this year, only 2 were won by double digits with the largest margin being 15 points. The average margin of victory was just shy of 6 points. The only conference losses the Cajuns suffered by a wide margin were a 25 point loss to Denver and the loss to ULM. But then they also stomped the eventual western division winner by 19 at their place. You have to smoking something if you think this team didn't have a chance in the tourny, especially with the propensity the tourny has for producing low-seeded winners.
BTW, the Cajuns have been one and done for 6 years in a row, but the last 2 under Marlin have been losses by 5 points and 4 points. Tournaments are funny things. I don't think many were expecting Middle to be one and done.

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

You aren't getting it. Of the 10 games in the conference tournament this year, only 2 were won by double digits with the largest margin being 15 points. The average margin of victory was just shy of 6 points. The only conference losses the Cajuns suffered by a wide margin were a 25 point loss to Denver and the loss to ULM. But then they also stomped the eventual western division winner by 19 at their place. You have to smoking something if you think this team didn't have a chance in the tourny, especially with the propensity the tourny has for producing low-seeded winners.
BTW, the Cajuns have been one and done for 6 years in a row, but the last 2 under Marlin have been losses by 5 points and 4 points. Tournaments are funny things. I don't think many were expecting Middle to be one and done.

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YOU don't get it, CajunFan. Bandwagon prince is so much smarter and more knowledgeable than us that...heck...he doesn't even need to go to games and can STILL provide THE definitive evaluation of the status of our program. Matter of fact, he wasted time going to two whole games. Probably had enough to make a judgement after that first one.

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Originally Posted by CajunRed

YOU don't get it, CajunFan. Bandwagon prince is so much smarter and more knowledgeable than us that...heck...he doesn't even need to go to games and can STILL provide THE definitive evaluation of the status of our program. Matter of fact, he wasted time going to two whole games. Probably had enough to make a judgement after that first one.

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You're right. How stupid and idiotic of me.

I tell you guys what worries me---FIU, WKU, and ASU have had great recruiting the last 2 years in football---Not quite sure about the rest of the league---In B-ball WKU and NYU have had great years and not sure about the rest----But if we are gong to win we absolutely need to pick up our recruiting efforts--I think that it has been posted about our terrible shooting and we NEED some guys to fill it up ----NOW!!!!!

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Originally Posted by CajunRed

YOU don't get it, CajunFan. Bandwagon prince is so much smarter and more knowledgeable than us that...heck...he doesn't even need to go to games and can STILL provide THE definitive evaluation of the status of our program. Matter of fact, he wasted time going to two whole games. Probably had enough to make a judgement after that first one.

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I guess if one translates your garbage response, it could be assumed that you are saying that those who only have an opportunity to attend X number of games should ever be able to express an opinion even in regards as to why more prople haven't attended games? How much hippy lettuce must one smoke to come to the brilliant conclusions which you & CF 3406 seem to arrive at on a regular basis?

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

I guess if one translates your garbage response, it could be assumed that you are saying that those who only have an opportunity to attend X number of games should ever be able to express an opinion even in regards as to why more prople haven't attended games? How much hippy lettuce must one smoke to come to the brilliant conclusions which you & CF 3406 seem to arrive at on a regular basis?

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When you base a majority of your opinions off of a loss to ULM which I've previously said was an aberration, then yes you may need to attend more than 2 games before you expect people to listen to said opinions with any sort of merit.

I want to know why the UL softball games are not sold out! These girls can play and trust me if you have never been to a UL softball game you are missing out on some excellent offense and defense!

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Oh about the topic at hand... winning creates buzz in this town. Simple as that. I wondered where everyone was when I was out at Cajun Field in the rain under the Bustle years. I could have a whole section to myself. Winning cures.

Icegators used to sell out the dome when they won.
UL Basketball had 8,000 to end the season last year when they won.

I love all the new Saints fans I have met over the last couple of years.

Basketball is inconsistent. You have to create a product in which fans want to be a part of it. Winning is a brand. Losing isn't. When I say winning you need to win with the occasional loss, but always be at the top of the conference. That's the expectation across the country. I'm sure there are message boards all over the country asking the same attendance questions over and over.

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Originally Posted by TheRaginCajun06

I want to know why the UL softball games are not sold out! These girls can play and trust me if you have never been to a UL softball game you are missing out on some excellent offense and defense!

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Oh about the topic at hand... winning creates buzz in this town. Simple as that. I wondered where everyone was when I was out at Cajun Field in the rain under the Bustle years. I could have a whole section to myself. Winning cures.

Icegators used to sell out the dome when they won.
UL Basketball had 8,000 to end the season last year when they won.

I love all the new Saints fans I have met over the last couple of years.

Basketball is inconsistent. You have to create a product in which fans want to be a part of it. Winning is a brand. Losing isn't. When I say winning you need to win with the occasional loss, but always be at the top of the conference. That's the expectation across the country. I'm sure there are message boards all over the country asking the same attendance questions over and over.

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Great points 06'. I feel worse about not catching more of the ladies' softball events than I do anything else in this town. I have enjoyed listening to their games on the radio & can say without a doubt, it's the best radio Stevie P. does by far any more. I'm thinking it's the women making his calls sound so good.