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We won at least one (maybe 2?) game when inferior teams missed chip shot field goals. We very nearly lost to a FCS school. We converted several 4th downs at field position locations where failing would have been catastrophic. Napier was the recipient of very good fortune during that stretch. He was ALSO a fantastic coach, clearly our best ever. Amazingly both things can be true at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
If Napier was such the messiah, why didn’t we give unbridled support for Des from the beginning as Des was strongly recommend by Napier to succeed him . . .
Because he was in the process of 4th and gone while reccommending someone he himself didn't have confidence in to call plays to be the next coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunVic
His poaching shows he didn't have the schools best interest at heart during that window of departure .
You are correct (again) both are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieK
Wait, he didn’t have confidence . . . he is at an unlimited financial resources university where he can buy the best play caller in the country and his sorry ass play calling is still going on . . . you can come here with a straight face and posit that position . . . c’mon manQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
Napier left us Des and in the long run that’s all we needed. Jokes on you Billy.
And yes you can not pull for Billy or dislike Billy. I have a lot of ex girlfriends and am still friends with some of them today. But Billy would be that first true love girlfriend you had, then she cheats on you with your best friend and takes all your favorite CD’s haha…. And no jeweler, this is not a real life experience of mine. Though I have been cheated on before.
Neither are good offensive coaches. Neither are bad offensive coaches either.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieK
2 games with missed FGs. At south alabama and at Monroe. I was there for both. That was all luck and how we won the West after the Monroe win.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieK
All recruited under HUD.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieK
Billy Napier may have been the luckiest coach in the entire history of coaching and his luck propelled him into winning the Florida sweepstakes coaching salary lottery . . . and we are seeing today that his success was more luck of bing at the right place at the right time than actual coaching skill on his part . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCajun
Sorry bud he doesn't have confidence in anyone but himself or he would do the head coach thing strickly. Status Quo is where he is confidnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunVic
I think he is a good coach but he also had really good people around him and 2 of them are still here. Mike and Tim have been a huge part of building this program. Napier Also benefited From having a really experienced team have an extra year of eligibility. It would have been interesting to see if we played coastal and won the championship how many of those guys would have came back or moved on. I think the unfinished business brought a lot of them back for that extra year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunVic
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Originally Posted by Turbine
Wait, then why post that he did not have confidence in Des when you know that was not the case . . . You know that was never even remotely considered my Napier so why say it here . . ,
You got some splaining to do . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
Its Napiers MO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunVic
Still he didn't trust Desormeaux enough to do the job traditionally assigned to the position. But he then turns around and says he is his choice to do it all.
Can't trust that disconnect
It taking three years to right the ship shows Napier was both wrong and right.
Wrong at the time, but right now.
sorry but personnel probably had more to do with success or lack of success of play calling than anything each called and you know it . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
I thought there were 2. I remembered the ULM one clearly. Couldn’t remember what the other was.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickRick
Dez is definitely a good offensive coach. What’s your criteria? Mine is scoring and winning. Both of which we are at the very least “good” at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch0364
It’s possible for Napier to believe he’s better at play calling than Dez, while also thinking Dez would be a good coaching choice. Not sure why you think those things are mutually exclusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
ULM missed field goals in back to back years against us. In 18 it would have tied the game. In 19 it would have won the game for them. We had already won the west but still that would have sucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieK
Winning has nothing to do with being a good OC. You can have the best offense in the country and not win.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlieK
We have way too many lapses for me to say he is a good offensive coordinator. The exact same things I was saying about Napier. Does he do something’s well, yes but I do think our offense could be better with the talent we are showing at the skill positions. I also hate settling for FGs after good drives.
We will never agree on this and that’s fine. In the end we are winning and that’s what matters.
We are in the top 35 in just about every offensive category, 7-1 and on the verge of the top 25.
So are we winning because of how good our defense is? How the hell are we 7-1? How are we a top 35 offense? Top 4 in the belt. Give me a break. No OC is perfect or calls a perfect game. But he is demonstrably better than average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch0364
Right. I don't wanna pile on that other poster, but Dez and co have the offense purring. And every piece in play is a contributor to that. The play at the line, WRs blocking/route running, RB play, and the poise, leadership, and play of Ben 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCajun
Billy inherited some decent talent that Hud couldn't win with, but he also brought in a lot of structure that showed on the field. There is no doubt that we got some lucky breaks to win games, but we were definitely fundamentally sound on the field that put us over the top. He also brought us not only out first 10 win season, but three straight 10+ win seasons, our first outright conference title in 50 years, and our first Top 25 ranking in the modern CFB era. As of now, Billy Napier is the greatest coach to walk the sidelines here.
As for Des, we are seeing a coach still learning on the job and drastically improving at it each day. The whole "continuing where Billy left off" line when he was hired went out the window when Billy gutted the staff and team. Looking back on it, Des had to start from scratch and wasn't able to get the close wins in the last two years that Billy got to the point where I would even say that the teams from the past two years definitely would not have had a 5-0 run in these last 5 games. But what's great about Des is that we are seeing his work come together with a time that seems to be focused on the same prize. And hopefully, this success continues to finish the season with a conference championship and a top 25 ranking.