BB G1 Final : Louisiana 8, James Madison 10

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

It apparently doesn’t work against JMU either.

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LOL. I guess not

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

It apparently doesn’t work against JMU either.

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JMU has better pitching than we do. Let that marinate for a while. They almost dominated us for 9 innings friday and they totally dominated us yesterday. How is that possible. I remember the statement at the start of the season that we have a much deeper staff but might lack a starter type of arm. I dont mind if we have to piece it together in order to win…if we win. But, we over halfway into this and still have no clue what we need to do. Ill say it till im blue in the face, when this program has been good in the past, we developed freshman arms. The blueprint was given to this staff. Yes we have gone the juco route to fill specific roles, sometime its worked out very well, others it hasnt. Thats the gamble with juco guys. When it comes to pitching you have to recruit pitchers, not athletic football players that pitch. We have not hit on many Connor Cook’s recently.

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Originally Posted by lifetimecajun

JMU has better pitching than we do. Let that marinate for a while. They almost dominated us for 9 innings friday and they totally dominated us yesterday. How is that possible. I remember the statement at the start of the season that we have a much deeper staff but might lack a starter type of arm. I dont mind if we have to piece it together in order to win…if we win. But, we over halfway into this and still have no clue what we need to do. Ill say it till im blue in the face, when this program has been good in the past, we developed freshman arms. The blueprint was given to this staff. Yes we have gone the juco route to fill specific roles, sometime its worked out very well, others it hasnt. Thats the gamble with juco guys. When it comes to pitching you have to recruit pitchers, not athletic football players that pitch. We have not hit on many Connor Cook’s recently.

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The pitchers we used to get won’t come here if they can’t get developed.

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

The pitchers we used to get won’t come here if they can’t get developed.

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Especially not under Thibodeaux.

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

Especially not under Thibodeaux.

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Or anybody for that matter who is not given the reins and let coach

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Originally Posted by Dad04

You have a good point. There is a difference between "That's baseball" and tactical miscues.

Since I've started watching, Cajun teams were built around pitching, then defense. Pitching seems like an after thought lately.

We have moved from a program with 3 or 4 solid starters year in, year out, to a team of middle relievers taking turns starting.

Nezuh has one pitch and is a starter somehow. That might work playing JMU. So Miss and Coastal will eat that ____ up.

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What concerns me most is that Thib went to the Cape specifically to find a pitcher. A starting pitcher.

He came back with a career 5+ ERA pitcher. And he looks like the exact same player as when he got here. Not much at all in terms of development.

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

The pitchers we used to get won’t come here if they can’t get developed.

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Pitchers came here because of the success of the guys before them. The development of pitchers was easy to see and explained by players and coaches before they got here.

Older guys helped younger guys in the bullpen with grips, arm slots and Robe handled the mental game. Guys like Sammy Tauli were the unsung heros.

It's hard to tell if recent arrivals could be developed, but we have certainly flopped on a few who were supposed to be can't miss sure lock guys.

After a little while there is nobody to mentor new guys.

Well in order to mentor you have to have 1- a system 2- u have to have success in that system in order to mentor it. So it would be slim pickings

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Originally Posted by Dad04

Pitchers came here because of the success of the guys before them. The development of pitchers was easy to see and explained by players and coaches before they got here.

Older guys helped younger guys in the bullpen with grips, arm slots and Robe handled the mental game. Guys like Sammy Tauli were the unsung heros.

It's hard to tell if recent arrivals could be developed, but we have certainly flopped on a few who were supposed to be can't miss sure lock guys.

After a little while there is nobody to mentor new guys.

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Is Buddy intrested in coaching?

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

Is Buddy intrested in coaching?

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Nope. Got his hands full. You have to start out of college. He had opportunities then, but not enough $$.

Farquhar is out there, but he is on the proball coaching track White Sox AA pitching coach. They keep promoting him. He is ideal for proball being bilingual.