One thing that has killed UL basketball

[Turbine]

how many other professions besides coach have a buyout? I don't have a buyout. CEO in some cases- but also is more like a retirement benefit, maybe law office partner - but that would be different since a partner is a part owner.

Virtually every profession that involves an agent.

[Cajunsmike]

Ironically it seems the p5 is doing poorly in nit

. TCU beat Ga. Tech in finals

[31Ragin97]

Well you said it is geared to make it hard for sunbelt and others to even be in. If it is then "their" tourney they should be doing better. Last year p5 had zero in final four so they increased p5 bids over 33pct just to get a 2-2 participation in final four

[CajunEXPRESS]

so is it fair to say a higher percentage of coaches have buyouts than the normal population of society, if so why? all the arguments about keeping good people, making money, "winning" , stopping your people from working for a competitor, etc, apply in all professions.
maybe a non-compete clause could be used and then a buyout would not be needed?

Getting a winning coach is such a crapshoot nobody wants to lose what they have. In business you can be a CEO in a high tech industry today and change to a totally different industry tomorrow and be successful. Don't think Nick Savanna can take over basketball at Kentucky and be a powerhouse coach.

Talent is unique and people pay a fortune for it. In business many can do your job.

[Cajunsmike]

Well you said it is geared to make it hard for sunbelt and others to even be in. If it is then "their" tourney they should be doing better. Last year p5 had zero in final four so they increased p5 bids over 33pct just to get a 2-2 participation in final four

North Carolina was in championship game against Villanova. UNC is a P5 school while Villanavo is in the Big East which is a major basketball league.

[31Ragin97]

North Carolina was in championship game against Villanova. UNC is a P5 school while Villanavo is in the Big East which is a major basketball league.

I thought we were talking nit

[Just1More]

Our problem with our head football and basketball coaches is not their salary... or their buyout. We aren't living inside a Cajun vacuum. Our problem with both of those coaches is their lack of high quality delivery of product - measured against their salary and our expectations. And as for "buyouts"... we didn't invent that compensation contract strategy. We are in a particular market that invented that construct as much for us as it did for the individual under contract. And it's a good one. It's only bad when you think you're on the wrong end of it.

But to say there aren't similar vehicles for rewarding or penalizing contractual obligations... is not correct. If you admire those that are privy enough to be involved in a "buyout" contract... try being one of them. And even "high salaries". The individual knocking down that high salary is in a pool of people that are unique. You can think otherwise. But you'd be wrong.

If we have the nads to place people under high salary contracts... with buyouts... we have decided we have more than an infant scrotum. If we believe we cannot take the pain of high salaries and buyouts... we need to admit we're scared... and back further into mediocrity.

If people think Coach Marlin or Coach Hudspeth are ready for dismissal... step up and buy them out. Dr. Maggard's contact information is available to all of us. But if you think the next person we contract in that position isn't going to take an equivalent or greater salary/buyout in a market where everyone else is trying to also be a winner... you are not informed enough on this subject. And someday... even the guy we all said "Hud for President"... will disappoint us... and this conversation will go from "how do we keep him" to "how do we get rid of him".

[ZoomZoom]

Here is a cold, hard theory we must face as not being a P-5 or a major basketball first league.

I am pretty much from the school where a ref can have a bad night, but a single ref does not go out on a court or field with an agenda unless it is payday for the NCAA. And I also beleive never complain about one missed called, there were always opportunities to offset that one call.

However, last night's, championship game. Carolina and Gonzaga each had 8 fouls called on them at the half and the Zags were up. Told my bride, it's over, Carolina will win. Of course she asked how I knew that. Simple, told her the NCAA cannot afford to have the Zags win and the game would be called closer because Gonzaga was not as deep as the heels and would influence the outcome. Didn't even watch the second half.

Sure enough, double the fouls on both teams the second half. Stealthly but effective. It's hard to argue when both teams had 22 fouls called on them, but obviously the zebras tightened the calls up, dooming Gonzaga.

FWIW, I had Arizona and Carolina in the finals, so was of no significance to me who won. It's the hill the Cajuns face.

[Cajunsmike]

Here is a cold, hard theory we must face as not being a P

Williams Goss was hot for Gonzaga towards the end of the game. He then sprained his ankle as his foot got tangled with a UNC guy in a freak play. He was not the same player after that happened. I think that is what caused Gonzaga to lose more than officiating. Their star inside player going 1 for 8 from the field was also a big factor. There is controversy this morning when it has been proven that on one play Meeks for UNC was out of bounds with the ball and a turnover was not called. Tar Heels scored to put them up three instead of one and that changed the complexion of the game. Only thing the NCAA says is that the play was not reviewable. Basketball is an extremely difficult game to officiate and they simply missed that one. Coach Few's comment is that he was not even aware the call got missed and his focus was on trying to deal with players that were having a difficult team dealing with losing.

[Ragin4U]

Here is a cold, hard theory we must face as not being a P-5 or a major basketball first league.

I am pretty much from the school where a ref can have a bad night, but a single ref does not go out on a court or field with an agenda unless it is payday for the NCAA. And I also beleive never complain about one missed called, there were always opportunities to offset that one call.

However, last night's, championship game. Carolina and Gonzaga each had 8 fouls called on them at the half and the Zags were up. Told my bride, it's over, Carolina will win. Of course she asked how I knew that. Simple, told her the NCAA cannot afford to have the Zags win and the game would be called closer because Gonzaga was not as deep as the heels and would influence the outcome. Didn't even watch the second half.

Sure enough, double the fouls on both teams the second half. Stealthly but effective. It's hard to argue when both teams had 22 fouls called on them, but obviously the zebras tightened the calls up, dooming Gonzaga.

FWIW, I had Arizona and Carolina in the finals, so was of no significance to me who won. It's the hill the Cajuns face.

Before I grab my own tin foil hat, why did the NCAA want UNC to win the tourney?
Officiating was uniformly bad. 44 fouls is ridiculous and never allowed the game to develop any flow.