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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    How would improving our gameday operations/atmosphere and maintaining a level of success on the field hurt our community and state?
    That's my point. If we aren't explicit about how that leads to a better and more effective university, then we will become like so many other sports-addled colleges, pouring money and attention into athletics to the detriment of the central mission.

    You can see it across the country. I will say it again: We have 1/3 of LSU's faculty, 1/4 of her funding, 1/5 of her doctoral programs, and we have passed them up in research funding.

    Ask yourself how that could possibly happen. I believe it happened because of what I am proposing: If we don't clearly articulate how athletics supports our core mission, it won't.

    Which means that while we are focusing on sports, we are ignoring our core mission.

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post

    Should we design UL around football?

    That's what started this discussion in the other thread: We hate LSU we want to be just like them. Some people here seem to advocate that approach, but I may be misinterpreting.

    Me, I prefer UL, the way we are now. I love this place, I love this community. I love our priorities: students, and education, and leadership. So I want UL to play to our strengths, so that we might in turn strengthen our state and our world.

    And I'm sorry, I don't see how that works by putting football first.

    I just don't see that with the LSU model.
    Here we go again. We’re “putting football first”. Certainly not at UL, nor will we ever.

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    I’ve never seen a reach quite like this one. Makes you wonder what sort of Lucy pulling the football away moves are upcoming from Martin Hall.
    Some folks just liked it better when Martin Hall actively strangled and suppressed athletics, even to the point of telling coaches they were not allowed to approach certain people for athletic donations.

  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    Here we go again. We’re “putting football first”. Certainly not at UL, nor will we ever.
    You're new here, aren't you?


  5. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    Some folks just liked it better when Martin Hall actively strangled and suppressed athletics, even to the point of telling coaches they were not allowed to approach certain people for athletic donations.
    Perhaps some did. I'm not one.

    What I'm pushing for is that we be very clear about how athletics supports our mission. I think it could be done.

    But if we don't clearly explain how that works, and if we don't place a high priority on making it work...

    ...it won't happen.

  6. #36

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    Make tailgating like a festival. Get a mascot. Have competitions with different tailgating groups. Introduce food trucks and vendors outside of Cajun Field. Have a designated tailgate area for people who don't want to spend $1,500 a year to tailgate. Get with local artists and come up with songs that appeal to Ragin' Cajun Athletics, and introduce them at the games. Have more interactions with fans, more meet-and-greets, and get out into the community to outreach. Have things for kids like a field day for a elementary school.

    Imagine themed game nights, where fans dress up according to different themes—Pirates, 80s, Superheroes. Introduce loyalty programs where attending games and participating in events earns points that can be redeemed for exclusive merch or experiences. Social media challenges and fan content features can keep the community buzzing.

    You could even have a “Ragin' Cajun Game Day” app with interactive features like live polling, trivia, and behind-the-scenes content. Make it more than a game; make it an experience.


  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    No, you're a smart guy. I suspect you could make valid points in a two or three paragraphs.

    It has been discussed ad nauseum... without resolution. Nor, as I am trying to pull out here, without clear explanation.

    How does increased football attendance improve our students, their education, and our world? Please be brief, and to the point.*

    *I once saw a parody of the bar exam. One question was, "Describe the history of the Roman Catholic church, and all of its impacts on philosophy, government, economy, and the arts.

    "Be brief, and to the point."
    Athletics gives people a vessel to stay connected with their university before they step foot on campus, while they are attending, and long after. It’s obviously not the only option, but it is a very popular one, particularly in the South. Athletics is the reason a majority of our community has a closer relationship to a university that is not within our community. This has nothing to do with trying to be like them. They are just who we are competing with for people’s entertainment dollars. If they are Kart Ranch and we are the movie theater, we don’t need to put go kart tracks down the aisles of the theater, but we have to be the best theater we can be. If they are a Creole restaurant and we are Cajun, we don’t have to starting putting tomatoes in our gumbo, but our gumbo has to be high quality.

    This has to do with being the best version of ourselves. Not having our concessions be an absolute disaster anytime we get any sort of crowd above 15,000. Not blaring music that no one in the stands wants to hear at an insane volume. Not ruining a once proud tradition of tailgating by pricing out our younger fans. Not having empty parking lots inside the gates of Cajun Field because we believe it’s worth X when the market says it’s worth Y. Not running off our students when they finally do attend a game. We got good student attendance for a game a couple years back, and we lined security up and down the aisles like a corral. I’ve sat above the student section and watched a security guard stand two feet behind a couple of the students we had on the rail just waiting for them to say something that wouldn’t be acceptable in mass. How are we serving our students when we discourage them from enjoying a university event?

  8. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Oh Pearson's, you gave me a version of goose bumps with "Peason's"

    I don't know enough about Pearson's to interpret. The lower the dot the better?

    Was 2020 high on the chart due to no fans allowed?
    You can see the point for 2020... the stats report an average attendance of about 5600.

    I was living in Spain at the time, someone else will have to explain the attendance.

    You are correct, however, that would pull the graph down a bit. But out of 53 data points, not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    How does increased football attendance improve our students, their education, and our world? Please be brief, and to the point.*
    Not one iota.... Directly. Its purpose is seemingly unrelated.

    Football creates awareness of educational existence.

    High attendance motivates people, because an unasailable fact that "people want to be where people are."

    A feeling of being with the in crowd motivates donations to the school.

    Donations increase educational value.

    Geaux Cajuns

  10. #40

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    It's all about the money Dr. Fun.

    Student goes to Football/Baseball game. Has a blast. Keeps going. Meets girl. Becomes an alum. Keeps going to games. Marries girl. Buys season tickets. Starts Tailgating. Supports the foundation in doing these things. Has little ones. Enrolls them in YRC. They grow up as fans. Attend UL, and the cycle repeats.

    This is the reason for athletics. It solidifies and grows the community of people who will support the foundation, and subsequently academics.

    Surely, you see this.


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