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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxmc1023 View Post
    They didn't think he was ready for the job..

    They wanted someone who (a) would be happy to be here long term and (b) might be a decent coach down the road. Hiring the local boy also gives them several years of slack so they don't have to do any coaching hires, worry about buyouts, etc.

    Des going 6-6 year after year with a meaningless bowl game is just fine with MH. Same with Marlin sneaking into March Madness every 4 years, or baseball winning one or two games in a regional...

    That's good enough. Not bad for little ole University of Louisiana at Small-town. They don't want big money boosters that will demand wins and improvements to athletic programs. They want donations from families whose names are on street signs all over town that don't care if we win -- "just happy to help a local school out!"

    Remember we're a Tier 1 R1A+ research academia facility first and foremost!
    Apparently that puts us slightly ahead of Grambling and ULM.

    Sports are just rewards for some of our dumber students and fans.
    This.

    Martin Hall really didn't like the excitement around the first two years of Hud's success. Fortunately for them, he F-ed it up. Then comes Napier. Excellent hire by Maggard, who was trying to build a resume to be a P5 AD, specifically for the Mizzu job. However, he didn't get that job, and the last two Napier seasons of a Top 25 team made Martin Hall nervous. In their viewpoint, letting a major sport like football be that successful brings with it expectations that are a "distraction" to them.

    They much prefer 6-6/7-5 going to some irrelevant bowl game and not having to "worry".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultracajun View Post
    Well hat's off to the Southern Mississippi band for making the trip. Don't often see the other band at CF.
    Amen, that was the lone bright spot of the night.

  3. #373

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    Ticket prices are about to skyrocket for football. You would think with such financial commitment for the new stadium, add pressure would be put on MH to make changes with the coaching staff.


  4. #374

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    Quote Originally Posted by Million$Mullet View Post
    If he was the guy, billy would have taken him to Florida. Obviously he ain’t.
    No doubt.

    Last night I wasn’t sure if I would be able to make the ULM game, so I decided to walk to the very top of Cajun Field and soak everything in one more time before they tear things down. I should have reached out while walking the stadium so we could’ve had a couple beers.

  5. #375

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    Not sure what the "martin hall hates success" talk is about. Sure, they do some infuriating and head scratching things to alienate fans, but it's 2023 and they know athletic success lends itself directly to university success. I know winning is important to Dr. Maggard, to the teams and they have had success in several sports for some time. Maybe I'm missing something and just like I didn't want to buy into the "Dez isn't the guy" talk, I can be swayed.

    Back to the game. Man, it was tough to watch. Unenjoyable. Actually, thought it was a win to get 15k, and that's sad.

    Needed to stop Gore. He was all they had. Didn't do that.

    Needed to score when you had the opportunity. 3 times inside the 7, counting the fumble recovery, 0 point. A good team turns that into a 21-point lead and the game is done.

    Needed a couple of breaks. Got a couple of fumbles and South Miss got them back. They missed 2 straight field goals from the same distance in back to back drives.

    Officiating. You knew it would be rough when "Lafayette" got a side line warning.

    Fields was actually pretty good. Through a few balls behind receivers, but they should have been caught. I didn't see the throw, but he missed a receiver on the final driver with a high throw that could have put us closer to a walk off field goal. I thought we'd win when we had the ball with a minute and change to go.

    Losing the center was a huge game changer. The multiple botched snaps (1 TO) and running up the middle on the goal line with a backup and not scoring made a big difference in the game. I might not be remembering this right, but did they move Gillie to Center then move to the actual backup on the depth chart and all problems were solved? If so, why wait so long to make the change?


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    Quote Originally Posted by KajunKrazy View Post
    Louie Cook would have been a great hire following Stokley. That would have been a home run IMO. One of the best offensive minds in football.
    LoL! Homerun, huh? As evidenced by all those big schools hiring him away?
    Hollywood should make a movie. "One of the best offensive minds in all of football goes completely unnoticed and his greatness never realized." I swear, on days like today, I want what some of yall are smoking.

  7. #377

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginScotsman View Post
    Not sure what the "martin hall hates success" talk is about. Sure, they do some infuriating and head scratching things to alienate fans, but it's 2023 and they know athletic success lends itself directly to university success. I know winning is important to Dr. Maggard, to the teams and they have had success in several sports for some time. Maybe I'm missing something and just like I didn't want to buy into the "Dez isn't the guy" talk, I can be swayed.
    Take a look at how this game was promoted. First time hosting a new rival since 2001, and they send out a massive email to fans and offer $10 tickets to a faculty that barely knows we have a football team. And let's not get started on the ticky tack back-and-forth between the administration and students/Greeks.

  8. #378

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Take a look at how this game was promoted. First time hosting a new rival since 2001, and they send out a massive email to fans and offer $10 tickets to a faculty that barely knows we have a football team. And let's not get started on the ticky tack back-and-forth between the administration and students/Greeks.
    I get that. Was more talking about one the field success.

    The lack of promotion, total game day experience, all of it, is awful. Yes.

    I do think the goal is to win on the field, though. It would be crazy not to and as much as UL feels like the Twilight zone, I can't buy into the notion that the admin a whole is ____ed when we win championships and thrilled when we tank.

    ....although, they've never recognized that the 2021 football season ever happened

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    And honestly I feel terrible for Des. The university did the greatest disservice to him possible. He should've been released to go coach at other places. Gain more experience. Create a bigger and better circle of qualified connections. Become a coordinator somewhere. THEN....maybe at some future juncture, the time is right and he is actually qualified to coach here. Ask yourself. Napier took the qualified coaches he wanted to Florida. If Des was truly ready and qualified, why didn't he take him with him also? He didn't. So, now.....where does Des go after this? You think he gets another shot at head coach somewhere? They put him in a bad spot. I can't blame him for taking the shot and the money, but......
    I promise, the University wasn't thinking of Des' best interest. Hell, without them knowing, they weren't even putting themselves in the best position. But as we all know and have learned.....they never do. If you're expecting something to change....you're insane. And I wonder how many people here complaining are the same ones that applauded the hire and calling everyone else, bad negative fans.


  10. #380

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    Just like you can like Dez, and not like the hire….you can also refrain from immediately negative public reaction while also being privately concerned. The lack of loud negative immediate response does not equal applauding the hire.

    Once he was hired, do any of you actually think the administration cared one bit what the reaction from a few posters in ragin pagin was? Do y’all think we could have changed their minds? Come on.


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