Cut to the (Bowl) Chase

[BabbForHeisman]

Wouldn't we need a waiver too? I thought one of the qualifications was 6 wins over I-A teams.

[Rebel02]

Wouldn't we need a waiver too? I thought one of the qualifications was 6 wins over I-A teams.

Not anymore. One D-1AA win counts to your record every year now. If we had played and won against two D-1AAs, then only 1 would count this year.

[Turbine]

If Monroe losses another game they will have at most 5 wins, meaning they are not bowl eligible. If the Sunbelt committee uses that to exclude Monroe from the 3 way tie for the N.O. bowl then Ark. St. goes. I think our only hope is for N.T. to beat Ark. St. . Correct me if I am wrong.

PS. Of course we have to beat Monroe.

Conference Champions are ALWAYS determined prior to any determination of bowl eligibility status.

[lxa656]

If Monroe losses another game they will have at most 5 wins, meaning they are not bowl eligible. If the Sunbelt committee uses that to exclude Monroe from the 3 way tie for the N.O. bowl then Ark. St. goes. I think our only hope is for N.T. to beat Ark. St. . Correct me if I am wrong.

PS. Of course we have to beat Monroe.

You are wrong, if Funroe loses to N. Texas, and then to us, they will have 3 losses, eliminating them from the equation.

[BigD]

As far as I understand it, if we beat Monroe, regardless of what else happens, we basically have the upperhand in the tie-breaker. Don't remember exactly what I read that lead to that conclusion, but that's what I heard. IMO, if we beat UL-Dumbroe, we're in. I think the Bowl committee would be stupid not to select us should there be some kind of tie. I mean come on, a team on a 5 game win streak, playin a bowl game at home? Against a regional CUSA team. How much better can it get?

God Bless

GO CAJUNS!

Hey guys, let me butt in. It's maybe a little simpler than we are making it. If ASU wins their game against North Texas and Monroe loses either of their last two ASU goes to the Bowl.

Someone mentioned that a three way tie between ULM, ASU and you guys but, I believe that scenario isnt possible. Any loss by Monroe and they are eliminated, if they don't lose they win it.

A tie between Us and You. ASU goes, as long as we have the 6 wins to be bowl eligible otherwise you guys would go if you have 6 wins.

I''m assuming no one else is going to be eligible.

By the way you guys have made a great run since playing us and probably deserve the bowl as much or more than anyone.

[BirdofParadise]

Hey guys, let me butt in. It's maybe a little simpler than we are making it. If ASU wins their game against North Texas and Monroe loses either of their last two ASU goes to the Bowl.

Someone mentioned that a three way tie between ULM, ASU and you guys but, I believe that scenario isnt possible. Any loss by Monroe and they are eliminated, if they don't lose they win it.

A tie between Us and You. ASU goes, as long as we have the 6 wins to be bowl eligible otherwise you guys would go if you have 6 wins.

I''m assuming no one else is going to be eligible.

By the way you guys have made a great run since playing us and probably deserve the bowl as much or more than anyone.

OK, here it is....and I'm only going to say it once.

The best case scenario for UL is for ASU to lose to North Texas and UL to Beat ULM. If that happens, the Cajuns are going to the bowl. Period.

If ULM loses BOTH of its games (UNT and UL), then Arkansas State MUST lose in order for the Cajuns to go.

Now, if ASU and ULM both beat North Texas and the Cajuns beat ULM, then all three tie for the title at 5-2. Although ULM won't be bowl eligible, they are still in the three way tiebreaker because we're talking about a conference champion here.

In the case of a three way tie, the bowl committee DOES NOT select the representative. The basketball tiebraker would be used until a team is eliminated. That means that all three teams would have their record against the fourth place team come into play.

Hypothetically, this would mean if MTSU finished fourth, ASU loses the tiebreaker because they lost to MT while the Cajuns and ULM both beat the Raiders. The Cajuns would then get the berth because they beat ULM.

But if another team finishes fourth, that could change who goes.

If the three teams are tied for first place and the tiebreaker eliminates the Cajuns, then the berth goes to ASU because ULM would not be bowl eligible at 5-6.

Remember, ULM still only has one conference loss as of right now.

[shof]

I believe the ncaa gave them a waiver because they were the league champion but did not have the six wins overall. I'm not positive but I think another team (MTSU maybe?) had an overall winning record but was 2nd in conference. Since that time the conference, at the request of the bowl committe I believe, changed the rule so tht if that situation came up again the bowl committe could elect to bypass the league champ and pick another team in the conference who had an overall winning record or possibly someone outside the conference. Can anyone verify if I have stated that correctly?

In the first year, MTSU finished second in conference and had an overall record of 8-3 I believe. Under "today's" rules; MTSU would have represented the Sun Belt in the N.O. Bowl since NT was 5-6; but that year it was the champ; period.

[NewsCopy]

Only three teams - Arkansas State, UL Monroe and Louisiana - remain in contention for the Sun Belt Conference football title. The league's berth in the New Orleans Bowl is a more complicated situation. The scenarios by which each team can earn one or the other: To Win Sun Belt Title Arkansas State - Cannot win the title outright, but clinches a share of the title with a Nov. 26 win at North Texas and a UL Monroe loss in either of its last two games. UL Monroe - Can win the title outright with wins in each of its last two games, or with a Nov. 26 win over Louisiana and an ASU loss at North Texas. Can win a share of the title with a victory in either of its last two games. Louisiana - Can win the title outright with a Nov. 26 win over ULM, a ULM loss at North Texas and a Nov. 26 ASU loss at North Texas. Can win a share of the title with a Nov. 26 win over ULM. To Earn New Orleans Bowl berth Arkansas State - Gets bowl berth with Nov. 26 win over North Texas and a ULM loss in either of its last two games. Advertiser The rest of the story no writer takes responsibility

[BirdofParadise]

HOLY COW. I WAS WRONG.

But it's easier now.

Cajuns win. ASU loses. It's over. We're in.

It's the only way we get in.

As it turns out, the person who said that ULM would be eliminated from the tiebreaker was correct according to the piece in the Advertiser.

[AstroCajun]

HOLY COW. I WAS WRONG.

But it's easier now.

Cajuns win. ASU loses. It's over. We're in.

It's the only way we get in.

As it turns out, the person who said that ULM would be eliminated from the tiebreaker was correct according to the piece in the Advertiser.

So, really what your are saying is that it is conceivable that ULM's loss to Northwestern State hurts US as much as it does THEM in the long run?

[Turbine]

As it turns out, the person who said that ULM would be eliminated from the tiebreaker was correct according to the piece in the Advertiser.

I'm not buying it.

IF the BCS Title game can take teams that didn't even win their conference I don't see why the opposite can't happen in the Sunbelt.

I don't see why the Sunbelt would be prevented from determining the final pecking order of its football season BEFORE submitting the list to the bowl committee.

Once the NO Bowl committee recieves the ordered list they can then go down the list in an orderly fashion and make sure they pick the first valid bowl team.

jmo