Well Fun, Tech ranked above us...

[SlappyCajun]

LA Tech became a top tier university in U.S. News and World Reports while UL and UNO remain Tier two.

While I don't like Tech it is good that LA kids have another good educational opportunity.

Any thoughts Fun??

http://theadvocate.com/home/827923-7...in-annual.html

[Zeebart21]

You cant spin it Slappy. In a race to the top, they(Tech) won this round. I know we are working hard on achieving the same goal. We will get there.

CONGRATULATIONS TO LOUISIANA TECH, this is a big time achievement.

Z

ps you still aint getting into CUSA, so suck it.

[Zeebart21]

I need to add something here... I dont want to pile on, but lets get real... WHAT THE HELL WAS DR AUTHEMENT DOING IN HIS LONG AND ILLUSTRIOUS 32 freakin years here??? My heavens I know he has his defenders but all I see is a guy that almost cost us D1 athletics ...Now Tech has achieved Tier 1 status and we havent? This all lies at his feet... The man was a joke as an administrator

Fortunately he decided to step down before it was too late.

Z

[shof]

Is there a "ranking" of the Tier 2 universities? In other words, just how far from Tier 1 are we??

[USL1970]

Congratulations to Louisiana Tech. They maybe the best led university in the state as they get much more performance or value from the resources they have than especially LSU.

LSU dropped in the rankings and their graduate school has overall taken a nose dive. Lombardi maybe one of the most academically qualified that LSU has ever had at the top of the their system, but his performance and especialy that of Chancellor Martin, Lombardi's chosen one, has been very mediocre. LSU just completed an 750+ million dollar fund raising campaign which should have done more for the university; however, most did not go to the permanent endowment, but more buildings.

It also is important to remember that US News and World Report expanded the top tier this year from the top 134 (about) to the top 200 institutions. So, Tech made the top tier with relaxed standards.

I believe Savoie is the right leader for UL and will lead us upward over the years.

[CajunNation]

WAC/CUSA/Belt Rankings

National Universities
17. Rice
50. Tulane
62. SMU
75. Tulsa
82. Denver
143. UAB
160. Idaho
164. Hawai'i
170. Utah State
177. UCF
181. Nevada
194. LA Tech
194. East Carolina
----------------
NR. New Mexico State
NR. UTSA
NR. UT Arlington
NR. Houston
NR. Memphis
NR. Southern Miss
NR. UTEP
NR. Arkansas-Little Rock
NR. South Alabama
NR. Florida Atlantic
NR. Florida International
NR. North Texas
NR. Middle Tennessee State
NR. Louisiana

Regional Universities
6. Seattle (West)
36. Western Kentucky (South)
37. Fresno State (West)
39. San Jose State (West)
39. Texas State (West)
39. Marshall (South)
63. Arkansas State (South)
63. Troy (South)
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NR. ULM (South)

[MetryCajun]

This news pretty much flies in the face of what CajunFun has been saying on this site. Just last week he had an article that made Tech look like they weren't even on our radar when it come to R&D. I would also love to hear his take on this development.

[CajunNation]

-----------------------------National Tier I--------Tier II, lower--------------Regional

CUSA-----------------------RICE----------------------Houston--------------------Marshall
-----------------------------Tulane--------------------Memphis
-----------------------------SMU-----------------------Southern Miss
-----------------------------Tulsa----------------------UTEP
-----------------------------UAB
-----------------------------UCF
-----------------------------East Carolina


WAC-----------------------Denver-------------------New Mexico State----------Seattle
-----------------------------Idaho---------------------UTSA-----------------------San Jose State
-----------------------------Utah State---------------UT-Arlington----------------Texas State
-----------------------------Louisiana Tech


SBC----------------------------------------------------UALR------------------------Western Kentucky
--------------------------------------------------------South Alabama--------------Arkansas State
--------------------------------------------------------Florida Atlantic--------------Troy
--------------------------------------------------------FIU---------------------------ULM
--------------------------------------------------------North Texas
--------------------------------------------------------Louisiana

[SlappyCajun]

In Fun's defense. I don't think he ever indicated that we were ahead of Tech on the metrics that US News and World Reports uses. I'm not trying to belittle Tech's accomplishments either, because believe me, I wish we were there. But here are the metrics per the Advocate...

"the oft-debated methodology for the annual U.S. News university rankings examines factors such as SAT scores, graduation rates, peer reputation and alumni giving."

Fun is constantly talking about research dollars. Tech has had slightly higher admin standards for awhile now, probably leading to improved graduation rates and SAT scores. When our admission requirements go up, maybe we can get within striking distance. We have to improve in these areas to get there. Student retention and graduation is the driving force behind dorms on campus etc.

[CajunRed]

Looking at the rankings shown above, I question any ranking system or set of criteria that has LaTech ahead of Houston.

[RaginFan2]

In Fun's defense. I don't think he ever indicated that we were ahead of Tech on the metrics that US News and World Reports uses. I'm not trying to belittle Tech's accomplishments either, because believe me, I wish we were there. But here are the metrics per the Advocate...

"the oft-debated methodology for the annual U.S. News university rankings examines factors such as SAT scores, graduation rates, peer reputation and alumni giving."

Fun is constantly talking about research dollars. Tech has had slightly higher admin standards for awhile now, probably leading to improved graduation rates and SAT scores. When our admission requirements go up, maybe we can get within striking distance. We have to improve in these areas to get there. Student retention and graduation is the driving force behind dorms on campus etc.

Tech, out of necessity, has long had a majority of their students living on-campus. In Lafayette, there have always been an ample supply of rent houses and apartments near campus, so the need for on-campus housing wasn't given much of a priority. I have long thought that was a big mistake. In fact, I talked with T-Joe about that very thing years ago when he was the UL Alumni Association Director. As others have pointed out, more students living on campus generally means they are more involved in the university community and tend to stay more connected to the university after graduation. Dr. Savoie's strong and aggressive building program shows that he gets it. I am so glad to see this finally happening! It will do wonders for our university in the years to come.

[RaginFan2]

Looking at the rankings shown above, I question any ranking system or set of criteria that has LaTech ahead of Houston.

Yeah, I was really surprised to see that Houston was not in Tier 1 after all of the push and fund-raising efforts they have made to try to get to that level. I also think these rankings that rely on "peer reputation" are skewed. Not sure how much weight they bring to these rankings, but they should be very small, if at all.