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    This is just a guess on my part and will probably change within the next few games, but I have an assumption as to why Coach Hudspeth is going with Gautier. I heard that Coach had made the comment that Gautier is a playmaker, Masson is not. I think Coach recognizes that Masson is the better passer than Gautier, but Gautier, being more athletic, has a better chance of escaping sacks than does Masson, and can make things happen with his feet, which Masson cannot do. I think Coach is hoping that if he lets Gautier play, he will develop his passing skills well enough that it will be more advantageous to have Gautier play than Masson. That may be a gamble on his part if Gautier does not develop his passing skills, mainly, I think, because that will make the offense one dimensional, run only.
    I think Coach will analyze his options these next two weeks and the final decision on quarterback will be made no later than the FIU game.


  2. #302

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    We need to let the RBs take the "punishment" and allow a QB to distribute the ball as he should. We have some fantastic playmakers in WR/TEs this year. The QB has got to be able to throw a catchable ball. Chris can do that. I'm very pleased with what we have developing in the RBs. It will become more evident when we hit the SBC play. We cannot rely on a QB that cannot throw a touch pass.
    I understand and agree. The fact is that whatever QB is running this offense will end up taking a punishment. Blaine gives the Cajuns the best chance to win, when the pocket is consistently closing under three seconds. Lastly, let's not forget that this WR group did drop like five balls that Blaine put on the money.

  3. #303

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Buds View Post
    I understand and agree. The fact is that whatever QB is running this offense will end up taking a punishment. Blaine gives the Cajuns the best chance to win, when the pocket is consistently closing under three seconds. Lastly, lets not forget that this WR group did drop like five balls that Blaine put on the money.
    The pocket was closing in less than three seconds because they did not have to fear the pass. Had Blaine made enough good throws for the D to fear the pass it would not have been like that.

  4. #304

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    This is just a guess on my part and will probably change within the next few games, but I have an assumption as to why Coach Hudspeth is going with Gautier. I heard that Coach had made the comment that Gautier is a playmaker, Masson is not. I think Coach recognizes that Masson is the better passer than Gautier, but Gautier, being more athletic, has a better chance of escaping sacks than does Masson, and can make things happen with his feet, which Masson cannot do. I think Coach is hoping that if he lets Gautier play, he will develop his passing skills well enough that it will be more advantageous to have Gautier play than Masson. That may be a gamble on his part if Gautier does not develop his passing skills, mainly, I think, because that will make the offense one dimensional, run only.
    I think Coach will analyze his options these next two weeks and the final decision on quarterback will be made no later than the FIU game.
    I don't consider Brandon Weedon to be a playmaker, he is a damn good QB though. You QB does not need to be a playmaker. Look at LSU, they just beat Oregon, who had a playmaker at QB, with Jarret Lee who is a game manager at QB.

    Blaine Gautier is not Mike Desormeauxx or Jerry Babb, both of those guys would thrive in this offense. Masson is a guy who will keep defenses honest because he can read a defense and make 90% of the throws required as QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The pocket was closing in less than three seconds because they did not have to fear the pass. Had Blaine made enough good throws for the D to fear the pass it would not have been like that.
    I disagree, I watched the game twice in it's entirety and Blaine only made a few bad throws. The few times that Chris was under center the pass rush was just as intense and Chris was forced to do what Blaine was doing, throwing the ball out of bounds. Our WR's dropped way too many ball's that Blaine threw. That is not going to help Blaine's confidence at QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Buds View Post
    I disagree, I watched the game twice in it's entirety and Blaine only made a few bad throws. The few times that Chris was under center the pass rush was just as intense and Chris was forced to do what Blaine was doing, throwing the ball out of bounds. Our WR's dropped way too many ball's that Blaine threw. That is not going to help Blaine's confidence at QB.
    Ok, lets go throw the football around and you run a swing route, while you are 15 yards away I will throw the ball 60+mph and expect you to catch it. By the way, I wont lead you properly and I'll throw it a little low just for fun. Then I want you to run a bubble screen and again I will throw the ball 60+mph and expect you to catch it, lets see how many you drop.

    You get my point? The WRs dropped passes that were poorly thrown by BG. Just because they hit a guy in the numbers doesn't mean it was a good pass, it may have been accurate, but that doesn't mean it was catchable.

    What make Drew Brees such a great QB? Because he sure is a mid major athlete when it comes to pure athletic ability. Too small, arm isn't that strong and he is slow. He is the best QB in the damn league right now because he understands his offense and is a cerebral QB that has tremendous touch on all of his passes. That is what makes him great, Blaine doesn't have any of that. Chris Masson does, plus Masson can run and make plays with his feet if he needs to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Ok, lets go throw the football around and you run a swing route, while you are 15 yards away I will throw the ball 60+mph and expect you to catch it. By the way, I wont lead you properly and I'll throw it a little low just for fun. Then I want you to run a bubble screen and again I will throw the ball 60+mph and expect you to catch it, lets see how many you drop.

    You get my point? The WRs dropped passes that were poorly thrown by BG. Just because they hit a guy in the numbers doesn't mean it was a good pass, it may have been accurate, but that doesn't mean it was catchable.

    What make Drew Brees such a great QB? Because he sure is a mid major athlete when it comes to pure athletic ability. Too small, arm isn't that strong and he is slow. He is the best QB in the damn league right now because he understands his offense and is a cerebral QB that has tremendous touch on all of his passes. That is what makes him great, Blaine doesn't have any of that. Chris Masson does, plus Masson can run and make plays with his feet if he needs to.
    You make some good points. Some of Blaine's passes were a little too hard but we are talking about FBS football. These young men should make the catch. I also think the OSU secondary played a very good game, most passes were contested or given a very small window. In some cases forcing a QB to throw a fastball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Buds View Post
    You make some good points. Some of Blaine's passes were a little too hard but we are talking about FBS football. These young men should make the catch. I also think the OSU secondary played a very good game, most passes were contested or given a very small window. In some cases forcing a QB to throw a fastball.
    I don't care what level of football you are playing, those were terrible passes. We could have had Blackmon running those swing passes and he would have missed more than he caught.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Ok, lets go throw the football around and you run a swing route, while you are 15 yards away I will throw the ball 60+mph and expect you to catch it. By the way, I wont lead you properly and I'll throw it a little low just for fun. Then I want you to run a bubble screen and again I will throw the ball 60+mph and expect you to catch it, lets see how many you drop.

    You get my point? The WRs dropped passes that were poorly thrown by BG. Just because they hit a guy in the numbers doesn't mean it was a good pass, it may have been accurate, but that doesn't mean it was catchable.

    What make Drew Brees such a great QB? Because he sure is a mid major athlete when it comes to pure athletic ability. Too small, arm isn't that strong and he is slow. He is the best QB in the damn league right now because he understands his offense and is a cerebral QB that has tremendous touch on all of his passes. That is what makes him great, Blaine doesn't have any of that. Chris Masson does, plus Masson can run and make plays with his feet if he needs to.
    You're stealing my thoughts! I want Blaine's assets available as a backup and/or a situational QB. Neither Chris nor Blaine is a Babb or MD as far as running the ball. I think Chris can run to daylight and pick up needed yardage. Screw these meatballs that think he ought to lower his head and take on a train. Blaine, at least from watching Saturday, is built and runs more like a FB. With his rocketball... and the lack of completions that will result (not to mention the pop-ups resulting in INTs) are not going to be offset by his "running ability". Griffin and Harris look to me to be the way to go in our rushing attack, and there are many other ways to establish a ground attack. When defenses start mentally adjusting to stop a bull RB, it slows down their rush. That little bit of timing afforded Chris would result in some timing routes that Chris can complete.

    There is no doubt that Blaine can have much better games against lesser opponents, but if he continues to throw that bullet ball, we are going to fail. I think Blaine's bullet ball looks good in practice, when you have a wide open guy downfield only concerned with snatching a rocket out of the air. Very few TEs in the NFL catch bullet balls. Just considering how much Ladarius needs to factor into future contests, that bullet ball does not cut it.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Buds View Post
    You make some good points. Some of Blaine's passes were a little too hard but we are talking about FBS football. These young men should make the catch. I also think the OSU secondary played a very good game, most passes were contested or given a very small window. In some cases forcing a QB to throw a fastball.
    All of Blaine's passes are too hard. The only ones he attempted to put a little touch on were those throws to the flats (a throw to be struck from our playbook anyway). In those cases, he threw low and to the wrong side of the receiver. Not withstanding, it was the first game and it was OSU. But, I've seen Blaine throw like that since he's been here. The uptempo of the collegiate game does not mean you do everything else at the same speed as HS... and just rocket the ball. Not by a long shot. It is actually reversed. Your mind clock is all that truly speeds up. It is about like timing in Jujitsu. Once you have the mind clock running right, it is almost easy to take someone off-balance and snap their elbow. The game has to start slowing down to a verteran QB and his passes should have a slight "drift" to them. A WR "frames" a ball by being able to see an arc in the incoming ball. A natural arc in a football's trajectory allows the WR to pick up on it's speed and location so he can "frame it". There is no "framing" a rocketball. I'll applaud the receiver that catches one. I will not boo the one that cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think Blaine's bullet ball looks good in practice, when you have a wide open guy downfield only concerned with snatching a rocket out of the air. Very few TEs in the NFL catch bullet balls. Just considering how much Ladarius needs to factor into future contests, that bullet ball does not cut it.
    The close range rifle shots are not there in practice, if they were I can’t see him starting against OSU. IT also helps when the recivers are not nervous themselves.

    Blaine makes plays in practice because the defense knows the play and he knows when they know the play, and he makes plays in practice because of it. He knows he isn't going to get hit so he can deliver the ball with touch . . . in practice. In a game he never looks rattled -but he is- it just shows up in how hard he throws the ball in short yardage situations.

    Masson looks good in practice delivering the ball but not in making plays. His practice sessions are more like a real game if the play isn't there he does what you do in a real game and throws it away. He doesn't appear to be the playmaker in practice that Blaine is. In the game he seems to have matured a lot, last year he would coil up and take a sack. Not this year.

    Last example: Last year my pick for QB was McGuire. He is not a choice this year because he has unfortunately been out of the real rotation for to long, but the fact was Brad was not the best practice QB, (Faulkinberry said the same about Jake) but somehow his game nerves turned him into a winner every time. He also has the knack for raising the level of play around himself. Most of all he had great touch on the ball.

    You never know how adrenaline is going to affect a QB during the pressure of real game. But rest assured it will affect them, just in different ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I'll applaud the receiver that catches one. I will not boo the one that cannot.
    Nor will I. I'm just stating a fact that HUD himself said about the WR's, too many drops.

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