Who will be the Cajuns first 1000 yard Rusher?

[cajunlove]

The problem with your assertion and proposition Oldman is the understanding of the autonomy of a running back and what causes a running back to be effective. In order for a running back to be viable, he has to develop a feel for the game. He has to be able to gauge the speed of various players at different positions on the oppossing defense. Expose their weakness and counter attack with his abilities. Usually for this to happen, it requires 20 plus carries in one given game. This is why most running backs who are the featured back in a system really become dominate in the later quarters of the game. This is when you see the long gains of 20 yards or greater. Absent an offensive line that is 5 stars across the board, and an offense that doesn't use wideouts....I seriously doubt if you will ever see 3 or more running backs sharing time garnish that many rushing yards...you gotta figure, the average 1000+ yard rusher carries the ball a least 200+ times in a 12 game season...requires at least 15-20 touches a game. Using "reasonable" logic...If we had 3 RB's that rushed for 500+ yards each in a season...a featured RB would probably rush for 2000 yards in that same system! IMO


See: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/methods.php
It's a nice article about football statistics...

Sweet analysis. I agree 100%. I wish one back would distance themselves early on in the season. Anyway, I just bought a house in the saint streets. Should prove good for being able to walk to the game and observe how this situation unfolds. School is about to kick back up...back to the SULC. Are you taking Fed J in the fall?

[Clutch0364]

Very good analysis, that's exactly why you see the better backs get that yardage in the 4rth quarter, particulary when you have the lead. They are superior fotball players. HELLO OM, we don't have 5 good tailbacks & I don't think Coach Bustle would say that in a private statement. Under your assumption, we have 5 mediocre backs.

Ok so we don't have 5 backs that can do the job...Chester Johnson, Dwight Lindon, Deon Wallace, Tyrell Fenroy, Celeb Rubin, Harrison, Jason Cherry, Booker Jenkins, Abdule Levier. HMMMM...thats 9 RB's that are all capable of taking a starting job here and unless one of them distances themselves from the rest I don't see just one of them getting all the carries. I don't think any of these guys would be considered mediocre.

[RaginEsquire06]

Sweet analysis. I agree 100%. I wish one back would distance themselves early on in the season. Anyway, I just bought a house in the saint streets. Should prove good for being able to walk to the game and observe how this situation unfolds. School is about to kick back up...back to the SULC. Are you taking Fed J in the fall?

Hey CajunLove...Summer was great..spent alot of time in Florida visiting my mother....Feels great to be in our "last" year of Law School...Naw..I'm gonna wait until the spring to take Fed J....Still gotta take Evidence! Can't wait until football season starts....Gonna have to keep an eye on you while tailgating...Dat's a big street your gonna have to "stumble" across!

[geauxboy]

Ok so we don't have 5 backs that can do the job...Chester Johnson, Dwight Lindon, Deon Wallace, Tyrell Fenroy, Celeb Rubin, Harrison, Jason Cherry, Booker Jenkins, Abdule Levier. HMMMM...thats 9 RB's that are all capable of taking a starting job here and unless one of them distances themselves from the rest I don't see just one of them getting all the carries. I don't think any of these guys would be considered mediocre.

9? That's an awful lot of depth at one position, although I guess 3 of them are considered fullbacks. The point I'm trying to make is that's a lot of players needed to fill one position, when other positions are suffering from a lack of quality depth. 3 or 4, barring a rash of injuries, should be sufficient. That's one reason why I think a clear cut starter needs to step up.

[Clutch0364]

I'm with you that one guy needs to step up and become the clear starter out of the group but I think that any of them can be a force because they all have strentghs that they could use to explot a defense.

I like to pretend I'm a coach sometimes lol and I would like to see Wallace come in and be used in a role similar to Reggie Bush at USC. Have him play in the slot, at HB, and returning kicks. Then I would use abdule Leveir and Chester Johnson as my primary HB's and Dwight Lindon on short yardage. Then Harrison and Rubin can both be solid 3rd down backs because of their speed but not every down backs because of their size.

Our depth at HB should be used to our advantage because when we are pounding the ball in the 4th quarter and all of a sudden we throw in a fresh back like say Celeb Rubin and all of a sudden you break a 20 yard run because a tired defense won't be able to keep up with him.

I had mentioned Jason Cherry's name because we don't know whether he will be a WR or a HB.

[geauxboy]

I'm with you that one guy needs to step up and become the clear starter out of the group but I think that any of them can be a force because they all have strentghs that they could use to explot a defense.

I like to pretend I'm a coach sometimes lol and I would like to see Wallace come in and be used in a role similar to Reggie Bush at USC. Have him play in the slot, at HB, and returning kicks. Then I would use abdule Leveir and Chester Johnson as my primary HB's and Dwight Lindon on short yardage. Then Harrison and Rubin can both be solid 3rd down backs because of their speed but not every down backs because of their size.

Our depth at HB should be used to our advantage because when we are pounding the ball in the 4th quarter and all of a sudden we throw in a fresh back like say Celeb Rubin and all of a sudden you break a 20 yard run because a tired defense won't be able to keep up with him.

I had mentioned Jason Cherry's name because we don't know whether he will be a WR or a HB.

I hear you & like it. Since I haven't seen enough of him, I wonder what abilities Rubin has in the passing game as a 3rd down back. I think Harrison's opportunities are about to pass him by, unless he steps up early. There is just too much competition for playing time for someone with size & abilities.

[RaginEsquire06]

There is just too much competition for playing time for someone with size & abilities.

This may be the very reason why we "might" get to see one of the best performances by a RB to grace Cajun Field in a long time....I believe someone is gonna step up!

[Turbine]

Point 1 for a single back: Ricky Williams average 8 yards a carry after 25 carries.

Point 1 against multiple backs: It is awkward for a quarterback to hand off to different backs.

Point 1 for multiple backs: There is a trmendous advantage to the offense if you can hit the defense with the offspeed pitch that various backs can provide.

Point 1 against the single back: If the single back is your reputation, it makes it harder to catch up when you are behind. Multiple backs keep the defense guessing.

[RaginEsquire06]

Point 1 for a single back: Ricky Williams average 8 yards a carry after 25 carries.

Point 1 against multiple backs: It is awkward for a quarterback to hand off to different backs.

Point 1 for multiple backs: There is a trmendous advantage to the offense if you can hit the defense with the offspeed pitch that various backs can provide.

Point 1 against the single back: If the single back is your reputation, it makes it harder to catch up when you are behind. Multiple backs keep the defense guessing.

"Res Ipsa Loquitor"....Great post Turbine!

[geauxboy]

Point 1 for a single back: Ricky Williams average 8 yards a carry after 25 carries.

Point 1 against multiple backs: It is awkward for a quarterback to hand off to different backs.

Point 1 for multiple backs: There is a trmendous advantage to the offense if you can hit the defense with the offspeed pitch that various backs can provide.

Point 1 against the single back: If the single back is your reputation, it makes it harder to catch up when you are behind. Multiple backs keep the defense guessing.

This is getting to be a tiresome thread, but I have to disagree with point 1a. Unless you were the '04 Auburn team, for example, you shouldn't have multiple backs with equal ability. If that is what this team has, then that is what we have...I don't have to like it. Believe me, our recruiters would much rather land a premier back, than one to join the pack. Maybe one can step up.

[BonCajun]

With all those backs no one will get enough carries

[RaginEsquire06]

With all those backs no one will get enough carries

Obviously...."with all those backs" the Cajuns are looking for someone to step up...If we had a single viable RB...we wouldn't have "all those backs!"