Limping into post-season

[DeadRed]

hey golfin

thanks for making my point. Last year ardoin's had bad starts also- bad starts equal plenty of bench time and he gets to sit and WHAT does he sits he RESTS-throws very limited innings for about 3 weeks and bingo he throws a gem against MTSU exactly- he gets rest- same as this year he needs rest-go to a game or two and watch what goes on.

LSpuke v. MSU
they are playing to a national seed (now) they left it on the field-no rest
MSU is plating for the conference tourn.

same with TXass-national seed no rest- just win
A & M playing for conf. tourn.

were playing for one or two seed the last two weeks and were resting people

when we play its has a lot more at stake than the rest of the schools were talking about

LSpuke and Txass could lose 6 of 13 and they would still host regionals-but they don't take games off

point is we gotta win win win

point is we can't afford to take games off and we still do constantly all throughout the year

[GoneGolfin]

hey golfin
thanks for making my point. Last year ardoin's had bad starts also- bad starts equal plenty of bench time and he gets to sit and WHAT does he sits he RESTS-throws very limited innings for about 3 weeks and bingo he throws a gem against MTSU exactly- he gets rest- same as this year he needs rest-go to a game or two and watch what goes on.

If you read carefully, I refuted your point. Just to be sure you do not miss it this time, below are Ardoin's last three starts of the season ...

5/15 vs. Arkansas State - 4.2 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 1BB, 4K
5/21 at South Alabama - 4.2 IP, 10 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 3BB, 4K
(End of Regular Season)

At this point, Ardoin had thrown 99 innings (1.1 innings more than he has pitched at the exact same point this season).

Sun Belt Tournament
5/28 vs. Middle Tennessee - 7.1 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 0BB, 10K

As you can see, Ardoin struggled mightily in his last two regular season starts. But it was not because his arm was dead. Ardoin pitched a gem in the Sun Belt conference tournament against Middle Tennessee. Ardoin did not get any bench time at the end of last season.

LSpuke v. MSU
they are playing to a national seed (now) they left it on the field-no rest
MSU is plating for the conference tourn.

same with TXass-national seed no rest- just win
A & M playing for conf. tourn.

Once again, all of the above teams needed those wins yesterday.

LSU is playing for a national seed and needs to continue winning to get one.

Mississippi State needed to win to make the SEC Tournament and secure a spot in the NCAA postseason.

Texas needed a win to avoid finishing fourth in the Big XII.

Texas A&M needed a win to have a chance at making the conference tournament.

were playing for one or two seed the last two weeks and were resting people

when we play its has a lot more at stake than the rest of the schools were talking about

The Cajuns rested some position players on Sunday. That is it (one game). And the backups played quite well. The Cajuns were not playing for a #1 seed yesterday.

The Cajuns are, however, playing for the NCAA postseason. To do that, Robichaux wanted to get some needed rest for players that are banged up. I think he did the right thing. Having healthy players for the postseason is more important than a single Sunday win after the Sun Belt title was clinched. The Cajuns are no longer in the running for a #1 seed. It is not like the Cajuns put a bad lineup on the field Sunday. The backups that played did so quite well.

Brian

[CajunProud]

Hey Brian,

What about responding to my post.

[GoneGolfin]

Hey Brian,

What about responding to my post.

Patience Daniel san. :-)

I would not get too worked up over Baseball America. They almost always rate the Cajuns the lowest among the polls. Manuel and Simpson would not even rate the Cajuns among the Top 8 teams at the end of the 2000 CWS.

But certainly polls mean something. They do offer good PR as you state and can be a recruiting aid. But I think more important is what you do in the postseason. The best thing the Cajuns can do for recruiting is win their third regional championship. This will get the Cajuns more recongnition and get them on TV in the super regionals.

As far regional bids are concerned, polls do mean something and it helps that the Cajuns have been in the Top 25 for most of the season. The committee is aware of the polls during the season and I believe having a team there week in and week out helps with the perception that the club is strong. The polls are not something that the NCAA selection committee will reference during the selection process. But I think it helps influence the subjective portion of the process.

BTW, I was in school when David King played for the Cajuns and saw most of his home runs. He was a long ball hitter and hit more than anyone per AB. But I think as far as HR length is concerned, both Hemme and Hawke have him beat. Kevin Meyers and Lee Cantrelle hit some long ones as well.

Brian

[CajunProud]

Thanks for the always informative response.

[JMV JustMyView]

I just think to many people are trying to be coachs. Leave that to coach Robe and let him handle who pitches and everything else because I might be off but I think he knows a lot more about coaching baseball and handlign players than anyone on here. I am still confident in this team and believe they have enough talent to get it done down the road. Everyone is talking about seeding, forget seeding all roads lead to the same place and it might be a harder road but if you don't want to play with the big boys then stay in the house.

Guys this team is special and win or lose we need to get behind them and support them 110%. The negative post aren't going to do any good so lets talk about how good Salazar, Faught, Shambaugh are pitching and how nice it is to see Merandino out of his slump and hitting like he did last year.

You are correct, let's stop posting bad things, let coach:coach and get behind these guys. Go Cajuns.

[DeadRed]

you're wrong again just like about everytime i read your dribble. I said we were a 35 rpi yesterday and you said NO NO a 32 at worst... today you tell everyone we're a 36 get your stats together ULtx

and we are playing for something everyday just like the four teams i mentioned yesterday-

and Mr. ardoin's arm is tired

can't you see if someone usually throws 7-8 innings per start and then throws 4 innings per start and is sent to the bench because he is gettin hammered he's gettin to rest on the bench

he's thown about the same innings as last year and his era has jumped and his innings are down again per start at the exact point in the season as last year.. his arm is tired.. that is all i am saying .. plain and simple

he went 1.2 on friday after a brief start the weekend before maybe by friday he'll have had some rest and his arm will have the old snap...

point was/is if you gonna give the weekend away anyway let the arm rest all weekend

[Clutch0364]

GoneGolfin has more knowledge of college baseball than you will ever have and has been of great help to us all on here throughout the season...if all your going to do is post your negative thoughts stay off the board and keep it to yourself because most of us on here know what has been going wrong but we trust coach robe enough to let him handle it. Stop focusing on the negative if your going to post and post something positive for a change.

That sunday game against WKU was a close game and from what I heard came down to a blown call, which means all thoughs reserves played a hell of a game. Moody also pitched a good game , y not talk about that instead of your opinion that ardion has a dead arm.

[DeadRed]

point is the boy needs rest that's it-and that'll fix the arm-time and time alone

just acknowledge it and stop defending the indefensible

try to think for yourself for a change instead of rah rahing whatever robe thinks must be right he's the coach... we all know that ... doesn't mean the man doesn't make mistakes ... hell he even admits them -- ie new mexico st sunday

everyone with a brain listening knew he was wrong when he did it ... but be quiet he's the coach he must be right

just one man's thoughts with no knowledge of the game whatsoever

[Clutch0364]

I never said he is always right but I stick behind his decisions. I have been critical of a lot of the decisions that the coaches in all of our sports have done at one time or another but they are the coaches and that is what they r paid to do so let them handle is because regardless of what you think you know, these coaches are around these players all the time and they know a little bit more than you do.

[GoneGolfin]

you're wrong again just like about everytime i read your dribble. I said we were a 35 rpi yesterday and you said NO NO a 32 at worst... today you tell everyone we're a 36 get your stats together ULtx

In the interest of being accurate and not simply accepting your inaccurate and exaggerated claims (spin), I will quote myself from yesterday.

"The Cajun RPI is not 35. I assume you must be referring to Warren Nolan's site. The formula used here is not the RPI formula. In fact, it is not even an accurate base RPI formula as it does not include tie games. The Cajuns pRPI was tied for 26th going into yesterday's game. I would expect it to be about 32 give or take a couple of spots. And remember that the pRPI is just a reverse engineered estimate."

I will break it down slowly so that you can comprehend.

1) I said that the Cajun RPI is not 35 and that you were referring to an inaccurate RPI publication. Both are true statements.

2) I did not say "no no a 32 at worst". I said that "I would expect it to be about 32 give or take a couple of spots". This was just a guess on my part without running the calculations and the intent was to illustrate to you that the RPI you are referring to (Warren Nolan) is an inaccurate representation of college baseball RPI.

Since Boyd's pRPIs were not going to be released until Tuesday, I had Paul at SEBaseball.com run the new pRPIs (using the proper bonuses/penalties and including ties). I did this yesterday afternoon, *not today* as you claimed. This is when I reported the Cajun pRPI to be 36 (results from the latest SEBaseball calculation). And thus illustrated to you that you were referring to an inaccurate publication. There are many differences when looking at the two sets of numbers.

Note that Boyd Nation released his pRPIs today and the Cajuns are at 37. But this is because Nation does not include ties in his calculations. SEBaseball.com does include ties as does the official NCAA formula. SEBaseball.com uses the same bonus/penalty formulas as Boyd Nation.

So, as you can see, I have it all together. Keep reading and I will teach you a little bit about the RPI and how it is calculated as well as the differences in the various published results.

and we are playing for something everyday just like the four teams i mentioned yesterday-

Either you are extremely hard-headed (quite possible after reading the few posts you have contributed to this forum) or are incapable of grasping the different scenarios these teams (six teams) were in on Sunday. I already made my point clear on all of these games. No sense in repeating myself, especially since you made absolutely no counter-argument to my *specific* points.

and Mr. ardoin's arm is tired

can't you see if someone usually throws 7-8 innings per start and then throws 4 innings per start and is sent to the bench because he is gettin hammered he's gettin to rest on the bench

Once again, you failed to address my *specific* point. I am not going to repeat the statistical example I provided comparing last season to this season. Ardoin's arm was not dead last season and it is not dead this season. If an arm is dead, it is not going to come back during the same season. Ardoin came back at this time last season under extremely similar circumstances. You seem to be equating tired with dead. They are not the same.

he's thown about the same innings as last year and his era has jumped and his innings are down again per start at the exact point in the season as last year.. his arm is tired.. that is all i am saying .. plain and simple

Now you say "tired". You are changing your position. Even though I do not agree that Ardoin's arm is tired, I could accept an argument such as this as a reasonable possibility.

As far as the small statistical evidence you attempted to provide ... Do you just make things up to support your flawed positions, positions which you are unwilling to consider flawed even if provided with contrary evidence?

Ardoin's ERA has not jumped from last season. His ERA at this point last season was 3.55. His ERA now is 3.04. That is a substantial decrease.

Ardoin's innings per start this season and last season are within 1/10th of one inning per start of each other. Statistical noise. Ardoin has the same number of starts at this point of the season (15) as he did last season.

he went 1.2 on friday after a brief start the weekend before maybe by friday he'll have had some rest and his arm will have the old snap...

Not if an arm is "DEAD". You are misusing the term.

point was/is if you gonna give the weekend away anyway let the arm rest all weekend

Nobody gave the weekend away. Yet another exaggeration.

If you are not going to address specific points that I made, do not bother responding with your empty generalizations. If you want to attempt to fortify your position with hard facts that counter my position, feel free. I am willing to listen. But do not come back with another empty post like the one I am responding to. I do not have the time to waste. There are much more intelligent posts with which initiate conversation.

Brian

[JustRagin]

All of us as CAJUN fans should be proud of this team. As we all know, anyone can win in baseball....just a fact! For a team to win roughly 3 times more than they lost is OUTSTANDING...regardless of their RPI. As for expectations...I do know they bring Disappointment. To expect this team to reach the CWS is in Fact pressure. Regardless how this year's team performs in post season...I WILL BE BEHIND THEM 100 PERCENT. I don't expect them to win the games they play, but I am confident they will do the best they can to perform at their highest ability at that time. I believe their is a small gap between EXPECTING and ARROGANCE. Merely look 56 miles to the east! I'm sure we as CAJUN fans do not want that comparison.

Good luck CAJUNS..and Kick some ~~~~~!!!