Limping into post-season

[Clutch0364]

I never said he is always right but I stick behind his decisions. I have been critical of a lot of the decisions that the coaches in all of our sports have done at one time or another but they are the coaches and that is what they r paid to do so let them handle is because regardless of what you think you know, these coaches are around these players all the time and they know a little bit more than you do.

[GoneGolfin]

you're wrong again just like about everytime i read your dribble. I said we were a 35 rpi yesterday and you said NO NO a 32 at worst... today you tell everyone we're a 36 get your stats together ULtx

In the interest of being accurate and not simply accepting your inaccurate and exaggerated claims (spin), I will quote myself from yesterday.

"The Cajun RPI is not 35. I assume you must be referring to Warren Nolan's site. The formula used here is not the RPI formula. In fact, it is not even an accurate base RPI formula as it does not include tie games. The Cajuns pRPI was tied for 26th going into yesterday's game. I would expect it to be about 32 give or take a couple of spots. And remember that the pRPI is just a reverse engineered estimate."

I will break it down slowly so that you can comprehend.

1) I said that the Cajun RPI is not 35 and that you were referring to an inaccurate RPI publication. Both are true statements.

2) I did not say "no no a 32 at worst". I said that "I would expect it to be about 32 give or take a couple of spots". This was just a guess on my part without running the calculations and the intent was to illustrate to you that the RPI you are referring to (Warren Nolan) is an inaccurate representation of college baseball RPI.

Since Boyd's pRPIs were not going to be released until Tuesday, I had Paul at SEBaseball.com run the new pRPIs (using the proper bonuses/penalties and including ties). I did this yesterday afternoon, *not today* as you claimed. This is when I reported the Cajun pRPI to be 36 (results from the latest SEBaseball calculation). And thus illustrated to you that you were referring to an inaccurate publication. There are many differences when looking at the two sets of numbers.

Note that Boyd Nation released his pRPIs today and the Cajuns are at 37. But this is because Nation does not include ties in his calculations. SEBaseball.com does include ties as does the official NCAA formula. SEBaseball.com uses the same bonus/penalty formulas as Boyd Nation.

So, as you can see, I have it all together. Keep reading and I will teach you a little bit about the RPI and how it is calculated as well as the differences in the various published results.

and we are playing for something everyday just like the four teams i mentioned yesterday-

Either you are extremely hard-headed (quite possible after reading the few posts you have contributed to this forum) or are incapable of grasping the different scenarios these teams (six teams) were in on Sunday. I already made my point clear on all of these games. No sense in repeating myself, especially since you made absolutely no counter-argument to my *specific* points.

and Mr. ardoin's arm is tired

can't you see if someone usually throws 7-8 innings per start and then throws 4 innings per start and is sent to the bench because he is gettin hammered he's gettin to rest on the bench

Once again, you failed to address my *specific* point. I am not going to repeat the statistical example I provided comparing last season to this season. Ardoin's arm was not dead last season and it is not dead this season. If an arm is dead, it is not going to come back during the same season. Ardoin came back at this time last season under extremely similar circumstances. You seem to be equating tired with dead. They are not the same.

he's thown about the same innings as last year and his era has jumped and his innings are down again per start at the exact point in the season as last year.. his arm is tired.. that is all i am saying .. plain and simple

Now you say "tired". You are changing your position. Even though I do not agree that Ardoin's arm is tired, I could accept an argument such as this as a reasonable possibility.

As far as the small statistical evidence you attempted to provide ... Do you just make things up to support your flawed positions, positions which you are unwilling to consider flawed even if provided with contrary evidence?

Ardoin's ERA has not jumped from last season. His ERA at this point last season was 3.55. His ERA now is 3.04. That is a substantial decrease.

Ardoin's innings per start this season and last season are within 1/10th of one inning per start of each other. Statistical noise. Ardoin has the same number of starts at this point of the season (15) as he did last season.

he went 1.2 on friday after a brief start the weekend before maybe by friday he'll have had some rest and his arm will have the old snap...

Not if an arm is "DEAD". You are misusing the term.

point was/is if you gonna give the weekend away anyway let the arm rest all weekend

Nobody gave the weekend away. Yet another exaggeration.

If you are not going to address specific points that I made, do not bother responding with your empty generalizations. If you want to attempt to fortify your position with hard facts that counter my position, feel free. I am willing to listen. But do not come back with another empty post like the one I am responding to. I do not have the time to waste. There are much more intelligent posts with which initiate conversation.

Brian

[JustRagin]

All of us as CAJUN fans should be proud of this team. As we all know, anyone can win in baseball....just a fact! For a team to win roughly 3 times more than they lost is OUTSTANDING...regardless of their RPI. As for expectations...I do know they bring Disappointment. To expect this team to reach the CWS is in Fact pressure. Regardless how this year's team performs in post season...I WILL BE BEHIND THEM 100 PERCENT. I don't expect them to win the games they play, but I am confident they will do the best they can to perform at their highest ability at that time. I believe their is a small gap between EXPECTING and ARROGANCE. Merely look 56 miles to the east! I'm sure we as CAJUN fans do not want that comparison.

Good luck CAJUNS..and Kick some ~~~~~!!!

[CajunCharlie]

All you EXPERTS have made me completely weary. The arguing back and forth..... I am right/you are wrong...... is getting to be tiresome, real tiresome!!

If you all are uncertain of anything, let me interject this. There are two things I am certain of....
(1) The sun will rise in the East and will set in the West
(2) Should #1 not occur, who is right and who is wrong doesn't amount to a hill of beans

C'mon fellas it is time to put this bickering to bed. I personally don't care who is right and who is wrong. So, extend an olive branch, white dove, or whatever. There's enough animosity and hurt in this world. No need to bring anymore to this forum.

PEACE

[JMV JustMyView]

Brian I knew you would prove Deadred wrong. We as Cajun fans appreciate all your time and knowlege along with being flat out honest regardless of who you are talking about. Thanks Brian.

[Maverick]

I've seen alot of posts here about Ardoin being tired here and I don't think that is the case. The coaches have been very good this year about not over using pitchers especially early in the season. Most of the discussions about Ardoin being tired have mentioned innings pitched but the really important factor is pitches thrown. Ardoin was on a pitch count for most the the first half of the season and Faught has been all season. Both have left several games this year having not given up a run and having only thrown 100 pitches or less. If you look around the league, this is a little uncommon. Faught has been incredible this year and appears to be getting better every week. He didn't win pitcher of the week once this year because he did not have a complete game which always looks a little better than seven innings. If you want to see a tired arm look at Walters from USA. This kid will probably finish the year with a lot of wins and great numbers but look for serious problems in his future. He has started three games in a week before and don't be suprised if he makes 2 or 3 appearances in the tournament if the Jags win some games and he is pitching well.

[JMV JustMyView]

Once the post season and the conference tourney starts Ardion & Faught both will be ready. These guys are seniors and have big game experience and know what it takes to go to the next level. It is time to rock and roll and kick some big time ~~~. Congrats to Austin Faught on being named Sun Belt pitcher of the year.