Not to jump on you, but ... is that it? Do we just have to accept that that's the way it is? Can't change Lafayette culture... umm, I guess if that is the case, then we have NO chance to ever be anything more then we are. I find THAT idea very depressing. If we are hitting our heads against the wall like that, then what's the point of even trying. Let's just throw in the towel now and just go partying. Again, not a response directed at you, RE.