I am not a fan of Tim Floyd

[CajunRed]

Looks to me that Floyd indeed was looking beyond UL and was only using this position to get at something he deemed more appropriate.

[bradyson]

_ Amazing how 5 years can make you forget your true feelings _

Fans' feelings about athletes and coaches usually depend whether they are on the team that you support or despise....

[Turbine]

Fans' feelings about athletes and coaches usually depend whether they are on the team that you support or despise....

So true. So true.


igeaux.mobi

[BeauCajun]

_ When you say "Louisiana" to whom are you referring? Certainly it isn't the Ragin Cajun BB program. I am not disagreeing with your assessment of Tim Floyd, I just don't understand your statement. _

I'll help clear it up for you. At the time the post was written (2005) the Louisiana BB program had been to the tourney 3 of 5 years.

[Etowncajun]

Is it possible the next coach is still in one of the tournments?

[BirdofParadise]

_ I was also told by 3rd hand information from a close friend of Floyd earlier this week that Floyd was no longer interested in the job at UL. Being a UL fan I did not want to believe it because my source is a La Tech grad who is not a UL fan but not a hater either. This person played ball at Tech when Floyd was there and they have remained close friend. But now that the process has dragged out and this other information has come out I no longer believe Floyd will be our next coach and my source was right. This disappoints me because he was my first choice. _

J-Town, the reality of the situation is that Floyd was N-E-V-E-R interested in the job. He played the money people, and a lot of fans, like a fiddle. He was pimping one of his buddies for the job and made us believe he was interested in order to get closer to the situation.

My guess is he's doing the same thing at UH and UTEP right now.

[usl1969]

Is it possible the next coach is still in one of the tournments?

Unfortunately the answer is no!! Just expect the unexpected with the coaching hire.



igeaux.mobi

[HOUCajun]

_ J-Town, the reality of the situation is that Floyd was N-E-V-E-R interested in the job. He played the money people, and a lot of fans, like a fiddle. He was pimping one of his buddies for the job and made us believe he was interested in order to get closer to the situation.

My guess is he's doing the same thing at UH and UTEP right now. _

Which buddy is he pimping?

[zephyr]

_ It is too bad Floyd apparently is not coming. Seemed too good to be true really, so not surprised. Those who did not witness what he did with UNO perhaps don't understand how good of a coach he is (although making Iowa St. a top 10 team and making USC a top 10 team, both within a few years, is something..., even if they did not get past the sweet 16). When Floyd went to UNO they were in awful shape, clearly the least talented team in the lowly american south conference, but all he did was win the championship the first year and then soon had that program ranked in the top 20. It was masterful what he did there in about 5 years. Re his run with the Bulls, there is not a coach alive who could have won in the nba with that team.

I agree that there is a lot of baggage with Floyd and I can understand anyone having issues with that, but to question whether he is truly a great coach is re-writing the history of his career thus far.

It is because of his baggage that he will have to rebuild his career for a few years at a less than stellar program (all the while bringing his new team to heights they have not been before or for many years), before moving on to a stellar program again. without the baggage he would not have been a possibility to go to UL or wherever he ends up landing next. _

I agree.

[CajunRed]

_ He is a top 5 coach in the country so of course will be moving on if Cajuns go on NCAA tourney run in a couple of years. The alternative is Cajuns go under .500 the next two years, as part of another 6 year plan to rebuild. _

Top 5 in the country? That doesn't make sense.

[zephyr]

_

OK I'm on the record; I am not a fan of Tim Floyd. The reasons are several and varied, but I will just scratch the surface here. Let me get this out of the way and admit he is a great recruiter, he has to be. If he can recruit multiple NBA owners with no and below no experience, high school players don't stand a chance. Unless that is they would just expand their horizon and look at the big picture.

Tim Floyd loves to tell recruits they need to expand their horizons. What he fails to tell them is that while it may appear like the horizon is growing, just as much is disappearing. Look at Ryan Fransis if he falls for Tim FLoyd's rhetoric he will be sharing his horizon with 3 other commitments at the same position.

In Floyd’s nomadic life he went 35-25 at Idaho, then 127-58 record at New Orleans, where he made a total of two NCAA appearances. He went from there to Iowa State, where he guided the Cyclones to three consecutive 20-win seasons. Not bad, but I hope that is not what he is basing his broaden your horizons recruiting technique on.

Louisiana on the other hand has three NCAA appearances in the past 5 years, four straight trips to the post season along with four straight 20-win seasons and five 20-win seasons in the last six years. If a high school player wants to get to the mountain and expand his horizons Robert Lee and the University of Louisiana gives him a much better vantage point than what Tim Floyd is promising.

Tim Floyd knows this his current job may be his last opportunity; he has stated publicly "This will be my last pro or college job. My last job, period, we're tired of moving." My question is, if Tim Floyd is so keen on expanding his horizons why does he always come back to Louisiana between failures? _

Turbine, you are correct with your statistics and everyone is welcome to their opinion on Tim Floyd. However, your criticism of his record and his lack of postseason success starts and ends with the fact that the teams and programs for which he took over were brutally bad programs with no prestige or past success prior to his arrival. ISU, USC and New Orleans not to mention Idaho are not exactly the UCLA's and UNC's of the world and to make those programs what they became from where they started tells the true story of his abilities. I'm not concerned with his rhetoric or what he does to lure recruits to his school ( As long as its legal and within Guidelines) because we truly have no idea what was told or promised to Ryan Francis or any past player he's recruited. However, we know that those programs were better off with him there than they were prior to his arrival and a program like ours needs a shot in the arm and someone to return us to a winning level.

BTW, I've seen more posts in regards to people's dislike for the potential hire of Floyd today alone than the previous weeks after his name was mentioned as a frontrunner for the job. How easily and quickly people are willing to proclaim their prognostication skills after the event has occurred. I've seen posts with people saying they'd prefer someone over Floyd but none that stated Floyd would not be a quality candidate.

[wcd35]

_ Turbine, you are correct with your statistics and everyone is welcome to their opinion on Tim Floyd. However, your criticism of his record and his lack of postseason success starts and ends with the fact that the teams and programs for which he took over were brutally bad programs with no prestige or past success prior to his arrival. ISU, USC and New Orleans not to mention Idaho are not exactly the UCLA's and UNC's of the world and to make those programs what they became from where they started tells the true story of his abilities. I'm not concerned with his rhetoric or what he does to lure recruits to his school ( As long as its legal and within Guidelines) because we truly have no idea what was told or promised to Ryan Francis or any past player he's recruited. However, we know that those programs were better off with him there than they were prior to his arrival and a program like ours needs a shot in the arm and someone to return us to a winning level.

BTW, I've seen more posts in regards to people's dislike for the potential hire of Floyd today alone than the previous weeks after his name was mentioned as a frontrunner for the job. How easily and quickly people are willing to proclaim their prognostication skills after the event has occurred. I've seen posts with people saying they'd prefer someone over Floyd but none that stated Floyd would not be a quality candidate. _

You make valid points about Floyd. Still, Turb's post was from 2005