I second this vote.Originally Posted by Turner
I second this vote.Originally Posted by Turner
You know, i think a lot of you are forgetting that the 3-5 pitchers in 2000 struggled throughout the season and hit a groove going into the post season. I dont find there to be a huge seperation in these two pitching staffs.
And for an overall 1-2, I think Ardoin and Faught are better and more consistent. Again, for an overall 1-2 point, not from individual standpoint.
I think that the two teams are mirror images of eachother. There is probably more speed on the basepaths this year than in 2000, however that is what sticks out in my mind the most about the 2000 club. They were more aggressive than any baseball team I have ever witnessed. DO NOT WALK anyone from the 2000 team, because they ran and ran hard. Personally I think we could have 3 less losses this year if we ran the bases more aggressively like they did in 2000. This team has the CHANCE to be a world series contender again. It all will depend on how they put it together in the post season. Remember, the most talented teams dont always pull through, but the players and coaches who want it most will find a way to win. This years team has shown that killer instinct, and I believe they could be very special this post season.
Besides some of the differences between the clubs that I will not get into, one big delta is that the 2000 team had the experience of winning a regional and being one win short of the CWS in a super-regional.Originally Posted by campo118
Gonegolfin you are a man who knwos what he is talkin about and potentially how far do you think this team can go?
Great question... one that we have been discussing a lot as of lately.. I pretty much am in agreement with the position by position evaluations... Heck I'm just not that smart to be able to judge on that basis... My take on the overall question comes down to attitude.. someone talked about the "swagger" of the 2000 team... Those guys walked out on the field and the message was sent..."We are going to beat you... and there is not a whole lot you can do about it"... That swagger allowed them to go into the #1 team in the country's home field.. a place comparable to **gag** the "box"... and win... that quality remains to be seen this year.. I think this team hits better and pitches better.... I just think 2000 willed themselves to Omaha.... 2005 is close... real close....
I disagree this years team hits better as far as average, but the 2000 team had more two out and two strike hits. As far as pitching, dohmann,gabriel,webb,templet,bullinger was all drafted only ardion and faught will be drafted I think everybody else will agree with me that 2000 pitched better we where if I am not mistaking ranked 5th overall in era.
Bullinger signed as a free agent. He was not drafted. Gill, however, was drafted as a pitcher by the Yankees, even though he only pitched one inning in 2000.
You are correct about our overall ERA in 2000. That team didn't allow double digits until the final game against Stanford.
It's interesting to see all of the different opinions between the two teams.
I'll say that this team is every bit as good as the 2000 team. But, that doesn't mean they will advance as far.
The biggest differences between the two teams in my mind are the back end of the bullpen and the intangibles. O'Brien and Bullinger closing games is a big advantage over this year's bullpen. We have some good arms, but lack the dominant "closer", especially with Cockrell in the rotation. Also, that 2000 just knew how to win. This year's squad has shown signs of that mentality, but it's too early to tell if they can bring that attitutde to the postseason.
you are correct bullinger was not drafted i meant to say he play minor league ball but was not drafted my bad.
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